SR - Heraldry & Names

[Martin, Brian]

For what its worth, I also like the idea of the lion gorged of a crown
but didn't suggest it as I feared that people would think that meant
that the proposed group was attempting to be a kingdom or something.

Pendaran

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Dennis and Dory Grace [SMTP:amazing at mail.utexas.edu]
> Sent:	Thursday, June 04, 1998 1:27 AM
> To:	southern at Ansteorra.ORG
> Subject:	Re:  SR - Heraldry & Names
> 
> Daniel wrote:
> >- a lion rampant, the standard posture, with a black star on
> >his shoulder.  This is a moderately common period motif.
> >Especially with lions, which were so common that they felt
> >free to do more unusual things with them.
> <snip>
> >May I make a lobbying request?  I know of no examples in
> >period heraldry of a star with greater and lesser points.
> >Could we just use a standard 5-pointed star
> <snip some more>
> >The lion should be crowned, or "gorged of" a crown (wearing
> >a crown as a gorget). 
> <snip some more to get to visual>
> >\      /\      /
> > \    /  \    /
> >  \  /    \  /
> >   \/      \/
> >    \      /
> >     \    /
> >      \__/
> >
> >"Ploy{e'}" means bowing the edges in.  Heck, it's one of
> >those cases where a picture is at least 1000 words.  It puts
> >the laurel wreath at the bottom in its own compartment, and
> >it's rather different from the usual SCA style.
> 
> I really like these ideas. I agree completely about the star. I think
> having a standard heraldic black star of five points both pays homage
> to
> the Kingdom and to our regional individuality simultaneously; a very
> eloquent statement in my estimation.
> 
> I also like the idea of putting the laurel wreath in the lozenge-like
> shape
> in base. I also like the idea of the lion being gorged of a crown, but
> I'm
> not sure how good that would look with the star on its shoulder. If we
> go
> with the star on the shoulder, I think the design might look cleaner
> if the
> lion in simply crowned or the crown is in chief.
> 
> BTW, Daniel, what do you have so far on Campoleon or Campleone?
> 
> Aquilanne
> 
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