SR - Old Subject

Thu Jan 21 23:32:15 PST 1999

I love your words Now I hope that some of these people will finally quit
with all of this nonsense.
Keyna

-----Original Message-----
From: Eirik <eirik at n-link.com>
To: southern at Ansteorra.ORG <southern at Ansteorra.ORG>
Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: SR - Old Subject

>While I do not recall having met you, I do salute you for saying something
>that may remind others and myself to remember that this is a game and we
>strive to recreate the better parts of the middle ages; espically the honor
>and chivalry.
>
>Eirik
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lee Lemons <lalemons at flash.net>
>To: southern at Ansteorra.ORG <southern at Ansteorra.ORG>
>Date: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 10:28 PM
>Subject: Re: SR - Old Subject
>
>
>>Dear Gentles of the Southern Region,
>>
>>I have read almost every missive concerning Gilli, insignia, etc., that
has
>>been put out over the past few days, and my heart grows heavier and
heavier
>>with every reading.
>>
>>Why do I, as a member of Stargate, subscribe to the Southern Region List?
>Why
>>am I writing now?  I have many friends who are scribes and insignia makers
>in
>>the Southern Region.  I personally care about the Southern Region groups.
>What
>>I'm reading really hurts.
>>
>>But since I wasn't in on all of this at the beginning, please forgive my
>>trespassing and let me just speak a few simple words from my point of
view.
>>
>>1)  Insignia and painted charters do not make the person.  It never has
and
>>never will.  The person's actions and sense of honor makes the person.
>>2)  Insignia and painted charters can help reinforce the moment - that
very
>>special moment- of being called into Court.  I hold my awards and insignia
>in
>>special esteem because I can look at them and remember what happened, know
>that
>>a scribe spent a lot of loving time on the charter, and someone spent the
>same
>>time on the insignia.
>>3)  By the way, your award charter is in fact a type of legal
documentation
>>that you have received an award.  Vital for proving you received this
award
>if
>>moving to another Kingdom, or if (cross your fingers, heaven forbid) the
OP
>is
>>"lost," re-formated, and / or needs to be re-created!!!!  Gee, does this
>ring
>>any bells?
>>4)  Do any of us really want to stop the insignia / charters?  Yes, we can
>>consider them "niceties" and do without, if needed.  I have worked for
>three
>>Crowns as Sable Scroll and have not known any of them to refuse giving an
>award
>>due to a lack of insignia or a painted charter.  If they did, then that
was
>>their perogative and who am I to gainsay them?
>>5)  Speaking about charters and insignia, I personally love the glow of
the
>>recipient when awarded one or both in Court.  I know the hours the scribes
>and
>>insignia makers put in were well worth it.  I can't even count the times
>I've
>>seen the recipient walk dazedly back to their seat, clutching their
>insignia
>>and staring at their award charter.
>>6)  Passing on your own insignia is truly a wonderous, special gift.  But
>you
>>have to have received it, first,  to be able to give it.
>>7)  Let's say you received an insignia that you think inadequate.  What is
>>stopping you from trying to submit better?
>>8)  Let's say you received an insignia that you think inadequate.  Do what
>many
>>do - return it with sincere thanks so that it can be recycled, and buy
your
>>own/make your own.  Isn't it the thought that counts?
>>9)  As for those who have been called into Court but did not recieve an
>award
>>charter or insignia, and still don't have them, could easily have
contacted
>the
>>Sable Scroll for it/them, if the recipient had wanted.  Sable Scrolls and
>>Crowns try very very very hard to not have this happen, but gosh, we're
>human
>>and it does happen.  Not intentionally, truly!!!
>>10)  Last but not least, we are all entitled to our own thoughts.  We are
>all
>>entitled to voice them.  I would have wished some who have been responding
>>could have:   A) been gentler in their rebukes   B)  given others the
>benefit
>>of the doubt as to what they were trying to get across.  Heated words from
>>heated hearts can do more damage in one minute than an hour of kind words
>could
>>possibly cure.  Or, it's easier to hurt / destroy than to help / heal.
>>
>>
>>Okay, these are my personal thoughts.  So in keeping, please flame me
>>personally.  I welcome your opinions, nothing will be taken personally.
No
>>grudges, no bad thoughts, not pointing fingers.  I care very deeply for
>several
>>of my Southern friends, old, new, and not met yet, and just felt I had to
>say
>>something.
>>
>>Curstaidh Magorlick
>>Yes, I'm a Baroness, and yes, I'm Star Signet.  Most importantly, I'm an
>>Ansteorran.
>>
>>
>>jhartel wrote:
>>
>>> > Your pettiness did however increase the possiblity that someone might
>not
>>> > recieve the award they should get.
>>>
>>> Oh what a crock of (fill in your own explative)...
>>> Take a look in the OP...my first Thistle was for needlework...to this
>>> DAY I have not received a medallion "from the Crown" for it.  One was
>>> given to me by my SCA mom and "in a way" that was even more special then
>>> recieving one at the Crown's hand.  The medallion, ribbon, shiney
>>> trinket does NOT the awrd make.  Neither does the pretty (or hideously)
>>> painted scroll.  It is the acknowledgement from the Crown that others
>>> saw and believed in your worth wheter it be for A&S, service, or
>>> combative arts.
>>>
>>> Moriel***
>>>
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