SR - Arrow vote rationalization

Michael A Scofield ivarcat at
Wed Mar 17 17:48:42 PST 1999

Sir Lyonel,

You are my hero!!!!

Catriona MacEanruig

On Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:27:44 PST "Dennis Grace" <sirlyonel at>
>Salut Cozyns,
>Lyonel aisai.
>In response to my question, Gilli says:
>>The why is very simple.  The early responses to my postings ran along 
>>lines of; and these are direct quotes copied off some of the 
>>"WITHOUT your arrows and assistance.",  "people do take care of 
>>and don't rely on others.", "combat archery forces can function 
>>My thought was this, " If they don't need or want them, then I don't 
>need to
>>make them."  
>In which case, you obviously misread those responses.  They weren't 
>saying, "We don't want or need your input."  They weren't saying, "We 
>don't appreciate your input."  They weren't saying, "We'd rather get 
>along without you." 
>They *were* saying, "We *can* get along without you."  They were 
>"If you have so little respect for us, you don't have to involve 
>yourself with us."  They were also saying, "If you feel overtaxed by 
>burden you've elected to bear, put it down.  No one will fault you for 
>Those people were angry and insulted.  Your letter explicitly claimed 
>that we would have gotten our butts kicked at Gulf because we had too 
>few arrows, because no one (except for yourself, you were careful to 
>note) puts in the time and effort to make arrows. 
>Well, cozyn, you were mistaken.  We had an adequate force, superior 
>strategy, approximately equal numbers on seige weaponry *and* archery 
>supplies, and the indomitable spirit of Ansteorra on our side.  
>was not an option.  Victory was ours.  Trimaris we could defeat.  The 
>weather, unfortunately, proved a much tougher opponent.
>I understand the anger of those who lashed out at you.  Not only did 
>they have a year's worth of hopes dashed by inclement weather; not 
>did they suffer the wet and the cold and the mess; they came home and 
>had to suffer your ugly comments, peppered as always with bits of 
>How would you feel, having suffered that transmission failure that 
>you from attending the war, if one of our fighters said, "It's just as 
>well you didn't go, Gilli.  You don't fight, so you're a worthless 
>of flesh anyway"?  Such hurtful comments serve no one, cozyn.
>You have to get it through your skull, cozyn, that many serve the 
>kingdom who have neither the time nor the inclination to make arrows 
>insignia.  Your comments on these subjects do not motivate, they 
>To avoid any miscommunication here, allow me to again express my 
>gratitude for the arrows Gilli and company supplied to Gulf Wars last 
>year and this year.  I'm sure the arrows would have accounted for many 
>deaths.  Many thanks also to Talon and the crew who helped him finish 
>many arrows at Gulf this year.  Next year our archers will darken the 
>lo vostre por vos servir
>Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace
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