SR - Ballot text?

[j'lynn yeates]

On 20 May 99, at 17:30, Timothy A. McDaniel wrote:

> How is it "unfair" to favor things that are more likely to work?
> How is it "unfair" to favor things that are closer to what the Middle Ages
> actually did?

i don't understand, you have a problem with a fair and unbiased ballot where 
everyone gets a equal voice in a choice that affects them all equally ???  

point to remember, as much as you would like it to be so, this isn't historical 
middle ages ... this is CURRENT middle ages.  the historical reality is not 
something that the people in this culture would tolerate.  sometimes the 
"dream" must be tempered with "reality", common sense and practicality.    

in this case, i thought the pupose of a ballot being spoken about is to 
finalize what the populace wants for a name out of *all* the proposals, not 
anyones particular favorite set ... is it fair or reasonable to promote implied 
favorites by ordering them on the ballot?   

if a impartial ballot that treats all suggestions equally is not the goal here, 
then why bother with a ballot at all?  why not simply choose the #1 favorite of 
the ballot keepers ... and simply tell the people of the region what the name 
will be (can you say "go over like a lead balloon" ???) 

the origional coment was "order them in order most likely to pass" ... i can 
think of only three possible operative reasons for ordering outside of random 
or alphabetic ... 

one, names that will pass heraldically - and correct me if i'm wrong, but i was 
under the impression that the names on the ballot have already passed this 
test. ... 

two ... supporting the "most favored" names.  pardon, but isn't that the reason 
for having a ballot in the first place.  seems that the origional call for 
submissions was simply to "test" for heraldic suitability with no implied 
levels of preference past will work/will not work.

three ... stacking personal favorites and burying personal annoyances.  we'll 
not go there shall we as this could never be the case (ahh, to be cynical in 
the spring ... )

i was always taught the traditional purpose of a ballot is one man, one vote, 
seeking majority consensus from a population.  following your initial comments, 
you seem to want things closer to historical middle ages, so why bother even 
asking the serfs what we want, why don't you simply tell us what's best for us 
and enforce the class distinctions ... (grin)  

hmmmm .. medieval socialism ????? might make a good research paper

'wolf, prophet in training


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