ST - Elfsea Springfaire Site

Mon Feb 19 09:24:31 PST 2001

Yes I was expecting to wait awhile, but I was just informed that there is an 
Ampguard event held there every Memorial Day Weekend. So it looks like it 
will still be Canton for years to come, unless someone wins the lottery, 
then....

I look forward to attending Springfaire this year.  It has been many years 
since I last attended one.

In Service

Ldy Mary Elizabeth

>From: baron at elfsea.ansteorra.org
>Reply-To: steppes at ansteorra.org
>To: steppes at ansteorra.org
>Subject: Re: ST - Elfsea Springfaire Site
>Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:24:55 -0600
>
>
>The Tanglewood Forest site is lovely, and improving
>dramatically.  I hope y'all will come to Spring Faire
>and enjoy it.
>
>I don't believe it's large enough to accomdate Steppes
>Warlord.  Perhaps in the future, after additional
>development is completed, but I doubt Warlord would fit
>on that site within the next two or three years.
>
>- Galen Elfsea
>
>
>Quoting "Martha A. Compton" <macpob1 at airmail.net>:
>
> > Just my 0.02....
> >
> > Yes the Canton site is mundane and some people do not
>like it for that and
> > other
> > reasons, but the main reason that Canton works for
>Steppes Warlord is the
> > availability of sanitation for 500 to 1200 people
>over a Thursday to Monday
> > weekend.   This concern must be fully addressed at
>this new site before
> > real
> > consideration of moving Warlord can begin.
> >
> > Muireann
> >
> > Jhan Knebel wrote:
> >
> > > The site is 50 acres.
> > > Currently, there are not flush toilets or shower,
>but
> > > he is looking for a contractor to do this work, as
> > > well as build the covered pavillion for the
> > > feast/court area.
> > >
> > > As far as I know, we are not allowed to build on it,
> > > but don't quote me on that. This is owned by a
> > > gentleman who is in Amtguard, and he has allowed
>land
> > > grants to his amtguard members, and those developed
> > > campsites are off limits to us.
> > >
> > > There is electricity around the future feasthall
>area,
> > > but it is limited and could not be made available to
> > > the general populace, but the event could make use
>of
> > > it. There is no running water on site.
> > >
> > > Hope this answers some questions...
> > >
> > > Rixende
> > >
> > > --- Annette Brauer <mabrauer at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > I am forwarding this from the Elfsea list.  They
> > > > have found a new site that
> > > > is yes primative, but is being improved.  It is on
> > > > 25 acres.  This is
> > > > something that we may consider for a future
>Warlord
> > > > site.  They are holding
> > > > Springfaire there which will give us a change to
> > > > check the site out and see
> > > > if it will meet our needs for Warlord.
> > > >
> > > > One of my concerns about the site was answered by
> > > > Fearghus since he is also
> > > > in a wheelchair.
> > > >
> > > > The other concern is electricity and a hall with
> > > > airconditioning.  Currently
> > > > the only place that there is electricity is by the
> > > > main road.  There are
> > > > plans for a large permanent pavilion where court
>and
> > > > the A & S competetion
> > > > can be held, but it is not airconditioned.  With
> > > > Warlord being so hot it is
> > > > almost a necessity to have a place where were can
> > > > cool off.
> > > >
> > > > The benifits of this place.  Land grabs, I belive
> > > > that we could build on if
> > > > I remember right, but someone from the Elfsea list
> > > > could clarify that for
> > > > me.  It would be more period than Canton, big plus
> > > > here.
> > > >
> > > > The owners of the land are going to use the money
> > > > they get from events held
> > > > there to make improvements.  I don't remember if
> > > > there are currently showers
> > > > or flush toilets but again someone from Elfsea can
> > > > clarify this for us.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In Service
> > > >
> > > > Ldy Mary Elizabeth
> > > >
> > > > From: Fearghus <lordfearghus at home.com>
> > > > To: elfsea at ansteorra.org <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
> > > > Date: Saturday, February 17, 2001 9:11 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ES - Site for Springfaire
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >I too visited the site for Springfaire today.
>While
> > > > I was one of the
> > > > >skeptical people about the viability of using
>this
> > > > site, I am now a
> > > > >convert.
> > > > >With all of the rain that we have had this week,
> > > > the main roads through the
> > > > >site had drained very well. There was no danger
>of
> > > > getting stuck if you
> > > > >stayed on the road.
> > > > >
> > > > >In the area that Timothy has designated to be
>used
> > > > for court and feast, and
> > > > >the area for the merchants, the ground was hard
> > > > packed sand and gravel
> > > > >rock.
> > > > >I was able to navigate this area in my wheelchair
> > > > with little difficulty
> > > > >and
> > > > >my scooter would have no problem at all. The
>owners
> > > > have cleared a lot of
> > > > >camping areas and the areas we will be using for
> > > > the list field could hold
> > > > >a
> > > > >small melee.
> > > > >
> > > > >While there were areas of standing water, for the
> > > > most part the property
> > > > >seems to drain very well and unless we get a
>weeks
> > > > worth of the "R" word
> > > > >before the event it should be no problem even if
>we
> > > > receive any , uh, you
> > > > >know what I am talking about during the event.
> > > > >
> > > > >One draw back, by no means a show stopper, the
> > > > roads are only wide enough
> > > > >for one vehicle at a time, so when people get on
> > > > site they will need to
> > > > >unload their camp items and move their cars
>before
> > > > actually setting up
> > > > >camp.
> > > > >This will require the constables for the event to
> > > > act as traffic cops more
> > > > >than security. For an event larger than
>Springfaire
> > > > parking would be a
> > > > >problem with the current conditions but I expect
>as
> > > > they clear and develop
> > > > >more of the property there will be more parking.
> > > > >
> > > > >They were working today building foot bridges
> > > > across areas that held water
> > > > >and were building an enclosed building to be used
> > > > as a first aid station.
> > > > >Yes our chirurgeons will have their own little
> > > > hospital. For the Archers
> > > > >this will be a refreshing set up. As it stands
>the
> > > > archery range will be
> > > > >directly behind the baronial pavilion. This will
> > > > keep us in the main stream
> > > > >of what is happening at the event.
> > > > >
> > > > >Over all I was really impressed and I think the
> > > > positives definitely
> > > > >outweigh the negatives. I see great potential for
> > > > this site to not only be
> > > > >utilized by our group, but other SCA groups that
> > > > are just as close if not
> > > > >closer than we are. Tim you did good in finding
> > > > this site and forgive me
> > > > >for
> > > > >being skeptical.
> > > > >
> > > > >In service to my barony,
> > > > >Fearghus
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Spence & Robin Mabry" <smabry at flash.net>
> > > > >To: <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
> > > > >Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 7:26 PM
> > > > >Subject: RE: ES - Site for Springfaire
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>Yeah!!!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Then it won't be like Canton (hopefully)!!!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Ceatta
> > > > >>
> > > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > > >>From: owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org
> > > > [mailto:owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org] On
> > > > >>Behalf Of Jhan Knebel
> > > > >>Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 6:01 PM
> > > > >>To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
> > > > >>Subject: Re: ES - Site for Springfaire
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Ceatta et all,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I just returned from the site and am happy to
> > > > report
> > > > >>that the site handled the rain far better than I
> > > > >>expected. The roads were still very passable on
> > > > foot,
> > > > >>and vehicles were able to drive them with no
> > > > problems.
> > > > >>It appeared that they have done some drainage
>work
> > > > >>since I was last out there in November, and
>while
> > > > the
> > > > >>ground other than roads was wet, it was not
> > > > >>impassable.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Rixende
> > > > >>
> > > > >>--- Spence & Robin Mabry <smabry at flash.net>
>wrote:
> > > > >> > Lord Timothy,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > After all the rain we've had, what would be
>the
> > > > >> > likelihood of visiting the
> > > > >> > site to see how it looks afterwards?  It
>might
> > > > be
> > > > >> > enlightening.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Ceatta
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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