[Steppes] Sunday fighter practice

Wed Jun 12 09:59:19 PDT 2002

Richard doesn't like Flagpole Hill, but that is a mute point.

The barony as a whole is not going to agree on this subject and some people
will be disappointed in the park that is chosen.

This is what I am seeing, just my interpretation of what has been said to
this point. So far the majority of the fighters are saying I don't care
where it is just point me to where I can beat on someone for a few hours.
The non-fighters seem to be the ones who are discussing or arguing (which
ever term you prefer) where it should be held.

So as long as everyone agrees to disagree we will all be happy. :) Everyone
is entitled to voice their opinion, and we must understand that our opinion
may not match everyone else's.

HL Mary Elisabeth

From: "Jann Mays" <hlgabrielle at hotmail.com>
Reply-To: steppes at ansteorra.org
To: steppes at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Steppes] Sunday fighter practice
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:17:24 -0500

Who remembers when Baron Lyelf the Lame used to fight at Flagpole Hill
regularly on Sundays?  He had no trouble getting around the terrain in his
chair and he liked the fact that he didn't have to deal with curbs when
wheeling up to the special lift device on his car.  Mary Elizabeth, if we
need to clear out rocks or debris in the area between the parking circle and
the fighting field for easier wheelchair manipulation, I'm sure we would be
more than happy to comply.  (Of course, all of this is contingent to
actually moving practice back to the Hill if the Barony/Fighting community
decides to do so).

HL Gabrielle

>From: "A Brauer" <mabrauer at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: steppes at ansteorra.org
>To: steppes at ansteorra.org
>Subject: Re: [Steppes] Sunday fighter practice
>Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:31:14 -0500
>
>What? We are hashing this out again?
>
>As soon as I saw that "picnics" where taking place Flagpole Hill I knew
>there was a plan in the works to have fighter practice moved.
>
>In my opinion fighter practice is just that, fighter practice.  If
>non-fighters show up that's great. The decision to move fighter practice
>should be made by the fighters not the other way around.
>
>I can assure you that Steppes will not see Lord Richard at Flagpole Hill
>since it is not wheelchair friendly.  He will go where the practice is
>friendly to him.  When you consider moving it think about this, would you
>want your husband or children crawling around the floor of a porta potty?
>That is what Richard has to do. If the decision is made to move practice
>keep Richard in mind.
>
>Before you say that he hasn't been to practice lately, he has been at home
>taking care of me.  For those that don't know, I was diagnosed with breast
>cancer last September. I have been encouraging him (ok pushing him out the
>door) to go to fighter practice. I am well on the road to recovery and we
>look forward to getting involved again.
>
>HL Mary Elisabeth
>
>
>From: "Michael Smith" <morganbuchanan at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: steppes at ansteorra.org
>To: steppes at ansteorra.org
>Subject: Re: [Steppes] Sunday fighter practice
>Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:27:52 -0500
>
>Moving it so that it's more convenient for people who haven't been showing
>up is an example of a bad reason to move it in either time or location.
>
>Leaving it where it is just because it's convenient for the people who have
>been showing up is almost as bad a reason to leave it.  For example, the
>current location is terrific for me, but I care not one whit if I have to
>drive another 15 miles to a practice that's better for the fighters of the
>Barony.
>
>There are questions that must be answered.
>
>Is the fighter practice first and foremost for the fighters or are the
>fighters only an equal consideration as the non-fighters who wish to attend
>FP as a social activity?  Why is this? (regardless of which way you
>believe)
>
>One way to look at it is that FP should consider the fighters first and
>foremost.  Other activities do not consider the fighters.  That's not a
>negative statement.  What I mean is, nobody says, "We need to make sure the
>ZZZ guild meets at a time and location that's good in case the fighters
>want
>to show up and beat on each other."
>
>Another way to look at it is that the FP is the single most visible
>activity
>that we have in the SCA.  It's our largest rock of recruitment of unknowns.
>I believe SCA recruitment is largest from word of mouth (SCA member's
>mundane friends and acquaintenances) and second largest perhaps from
>targeted demos such as Highland Games or Scottish Festival or RenFests.
>But
>in terms of walk-by recruitment, fighter practice is where it's at.  Not as
>many people stop by a group of oddly dressed individuals who are sewing and
>weaving in a park, for example.  Because of this, I can understand that a
>Barony's non-fighting populace may feel a larger sense of ownership of the
>FP than other non-whatever activity individuals feel for those activities
>in
>which they do not participate.
>
>These are of course just my opinions, but I hope it's something everyone
>thinks about.  This promises to be an interesting discussion for our
>Barony.
>  But if we're not willing to discuss it honestly (citing our reasoning for
>our opinions) I believe we will not have a very good discourse.  :)
>
>A well attended and active fighter practice, regardless of time and
>location, will do much more for our fair Barony than will a poor practice
>in
>the "best" of locations.
>
>My opinion, I will admit, is fighter-centric.  If what we do increases the
>number of fighters at practice, it increases the quality of practice to me.
>If it does not, it's no improvement to me.  8 fighters and 3 SCA
>socializers
>to me is better than 6 fighters and 30 SCA socializers.  This is my
>opinion.
>
>Yours in Service,
>Lord Morgan Buchanan
>
>
>From: Jason Hitt <cutter07 at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: steppes at ansteorra.org
>To: steppes at ansteorra.org
>Subject: Re: [Steppes] Sunday fighter practice
>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:25:57 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Perhaps naming the "wrong" and "right" reasons would
>help. Also thinking of the people who don't come for
>good reasons rather then fighters that come already
>might help raise particpation overall.
>Later would probably help with heat, easier traffic,
>and scheduling for most people. Just some suggestions
>from a newbie.
>
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