[Steppes] Mailing list status

[Susan Hill]

I would love to be able to delete all of the things that don't on the 
surface appear to be important, but unfortunately, I have occasionally found 
some real gems that I needed or was glad to know about in posts that 
retained subject lines that probably should have been changed, so I skim 
though everything. I am grateful for the decrease in the number of posts and 
have learned how to do my posting without sending things where I don't want 
them to go after a few glitches right after the change.

As far as people not getting information that they should such as when or 
where....well theSteppes webpage still has email addresses, phone numbers, 
and other contact information about officers, guilds, meeting places times, 
etc. Perhaps we should be encouraging people to use that information more 
often so that the information goes directly where it should go rather than 
cluttering up the list. I seem to recall getting several emails relayed from 
folks who were on their way to Gulf passing on info about speed traps. When 
all of the lists get pasted with this stuff, I know I get some of the same 
thing at least three or four times because of the multiple lists I am on. As 
far as the archer is concerned, if he had been directed to the website, he 
would have been able to email or call me and I would have been more than 
happy to direct him to practice. Being originally from An Tir myself, I 
would have loved to chat with him, as well.

I will agree that just hitting reply is nice for all those lists you 
mentioned other than the fact that again, it means that one person can 
sometimes get the same email three, four, five, or more times. I would 
rather that people not just blindly send to everyone, but make certain that 
their messages are more specific to the list they are sent on. That is why 
there are so many different lists, so that we all don't have to get the same 
stuff all the time. There are really very few things that need to be sent to 
every list.

Personally, I think that everyone should be subscribed to the Ansteorra list 
and their local list and that's it. Information that doesn't need to go to 
everyone should be kept to the special interest lists, just as local stuff 
should be kept on the local list and me too's should be gone completely.

Lyneya de Grey
Archery Marshal
Barony of the Steppes





>From: Catherine Sims <arianne_steppes at yahoo.com>
>To: steppes at ansteorra.org
>Subject: Re: [Steppes] Mailing list status
>Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:03:52 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I appreciate the examples cited, and agree that they were problems.  That 
>said,
>I was extremely tired of reading 10-15 "me too" posts and other things that
>should have gone privately rather than to the list.  I have a limited 
>amount of
>time to read e-mail, and I appreciate that list traffic is down 
>significantly.
>I used to spend quite a bit of time reading the first few posts in a 
>thread,
>and then having to delete things that should have gone privately.  I am on
>several other, non-SCA related, lists and most of them work the way the 
>Steppes
>list does currently.  When that change was made to the Socknitters' list, 
>for
>example, traffic dropped from about 50 messages a day down to about 20.  
>Much
>more manageable for those of us with limited time.
>
>Just a "responsible" opposing viewpoint.
>
>Arianne/Cathy
>
>--- Trish Kvamme <ladyoftherose at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Love to give you some examples
> >
> > 1.  A gentleman was on his way to Gulf war, he was out earlier than 
>most,
> > saw alot of traffic cops setting up for speeders.  He emailed this
> > information via  his phone, but sadly, it was the silly reply thing and 
>went
> > to one individual, that individual didnt know it was not a solo message,
> > thus no one got the email.
> >
> > 2.  A new archer moved here from An Tir and wanted to get directions to
> > practice and to get in personal touch with the community, once again, 
>reply
> > all wasn't a normal list option, and his information was lost.  Luckily 
>he
> > met Michael Fray later on and found the community.
> >
> > 3.  I posted for a public workshop some time back for sewing, a newcomer
> > didnt get past the "guess what" and 6 weeks later she met me at fighter
> > practice.
> >
> > These are just a few of the examples of the tons I have.  I have sat in
> > large groups of very annoyed people discussing the same types of things.
> >
> > The list is to exist to help and serve the members of the barony.  It is
> > currently like a wagon with a square wheel, useable but not as fast or
> > functional as it could be.
> >
> > The rest of the Ansteorran lists are all just hit reply and talk away, I 
>am
> > on a good many of them.  Since we are pretty much an adult community on 
>the
> > lists, with a few very mature teens, I think we can handle an 
>occaisional
> > oops.
> >
> > I for one find it a pain in the butt to have to use special commands for 
>one
> > list, it would be a courtesy to those who find it annoying to please let 
>us
> > police ourselves and be able to reply to a mesasge without being about 
>to
> > hit enter and saying bleh, cutting and pasteing our letter to the Barony 
>and
> > back tabbing to re-hit reply all.
> >
> > It is about communication, the list that is.  Simple, easy, effective
> > communication for all, and this is just plain annoying :)
> >
> > ie: 1 squre wheel.
> >
> > Larissa
> ><snip>
>
>"Remember, no one can make you feel inferior without your consent."
>- Eleanor Roosevelt
>
>
>
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