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Mon May 29 06:10:17 PDT 2006


moved back to the Hill. Some of us who live on the
east side of town were disappointed when it got moved
and some of the archery practices at Eastfield have
had greater attendence by non-archers who just wanted
to come out and be with their SCA friends for the day.
That is why we started having the picnics. We are just
getting together with our friends at a place that has
more facilities than Eastfield Archery Range, which is
pretty bare compared to Flagpole Hill. There are days
when there is very little or no fighting at all. I
would show up at fighter practice if it was at the
Hill and I am interested in becoming Authorized as a
Heavy Fighter, but I would also enjoy continuing our
picnics on a day other than Fighter Practice.

Greylond Aston

-- A Brauer <mabrauer at hotmail.com> wrote:
> What? We are hashing this out again?
>
> As soon as I saw that "picnics" where taking place
> Flagpole Hill I knew
> there was a plan in the works to have fighter
> practice moved.
>
> In my opinion fighter practice is just that, fighter
> practice.  If
> non-fighters show up that's great. The decision to
> move fighter practice
> should be made by the fighters not the other way
> around.
>
> I can assure you that Steppes will not see Lord
> Richard at Flagpole Hill
> since it is not wheelchair friendly.  He will go
> where the practice is
> friendly to him.  When you consider moving it think
> about this, would you
> want your husband or children crawling around the
> floor of a porta potty?
> That is what Richard has to do. If the decision is
> made to move practice
> keep Richard in mind.
>
> Before you say that he hasn't been to practice
> lately, he has been at home
> taking care of me.  For those that don't know, I was
> diagnosed with breast
> cancer last September. I have been encouraging him
> (ok pushing him out the
> door) to go to fighter practice. I am well on the
> road to recovery and we
> look forward to getting involved again.
>
> HL Mary Elisabeth
>
>
> From: "Michael Smith" <morganbuchanan at hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: steppes at ansteorra.org
> To: steppes at ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Steppes] Sunday fighter practice
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:27:52 -0500
>
> Moving it so that it's more convenient for people
> who haven't been showing
> up is an example of a bad reason to move it in
> either time or location.
>
> Leaving it where it is just because it's convenient
> for the people who have
> been showing up is almost as bad a reason to leave
> it.  For example, the
> current location is terrific for me, but I care not
> one whit if I have to
> drive another 15 miles to a practice that's better
> for the fighters of the
> Barony.
>
> There are questions that must be answered.
>
> Is the fighter practice first and foremost for the
> fighters or are the
> fighters only an equal consideration as the
> non-fighters who wish to attend
> FP as a social activity?  Why is this? (regardless
> of which way you believe)
>
> One way to look at it is that FP should consider the
> fighters first and
> foremost.  Other activities do not consider the
> fighters.  That's not a
> negative statement.  What I mean is, nobody says,
> "We need to make sure the
> ZZZ guild meets at a time and location that's good
> in case the fighters want
> to show up and beat on each other."
>
> Another way to look at it is that the FP is the
> single most visible activity
> that we have in the SCA.  It's our largest rock of
> recruitment of unknowns.
> I believe SCA recruitment is largest from word of
> mouth (SCA member's
> mundane friends and acquaintenances) and second
> largest perhaps from
> targeted demos such as Highland Games or Scottish
> Festival or RenFests.  But
> in terms of walk-by recruitment, fighter practice is
> where it's at.  Not as
> many people stop by a group of oddly dressed
> individuals who are sewing and
> weaving in a park, for example.  Because of this, I
> can understand that a
> Barony's non-fighting populace may feel a larger
> sense of ownership of the
> FP than other non-whatever activity individuals feel
> for those activities in
> which they do not participate.
>
> These are of course just my opinions, but I hope
> it's something everyone
> thinks about.  This promises to be an interesting
> discussion for our Barony.
>   But if we're not willing to discuss it honestly
> (citing our reasoning for
> our opinions) I believe we will not have a very good
> discourse.  :)
>
> A well attended and active fighter practice,
> regardless of time and
> location, will do much more for our fair Barony than
> will a poor practice in
> the "best" of locations.
>
> My opinion, I will admit, is fighter-centric.  If
> what we do increases the
> number of fighters at practice, it increases the
> quality of practice to me.
> If it does not, it's no improvement to me.  8
> fighters and 3 SCA socializers
> to me is better than 6 fighters and 30 SCA
> socializers.  This is my opinion.
>
> Yours in Service,
> Lord Morgan Buchanan
>
>
> From: Jason Hitt <cutter07 at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: steppes at ansteorra.org
> To: steppes at ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Steppes] Sunday fighter practice
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:25:57 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Perhaps naming the "wrong" and "right" reasons would
> help. Also thinking of the people who don't come for
> good reasons rather then fighters that come already
> might help raise particpation overall.
> Later would probably help with heat, easier traffic,
> and scheduling for most people. Just some
> suggestions
> from a newbie.
>
>
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