[Steppes] Heraldic rules (was: Does anyone have)

Michelle Dodd lygabrielerdb at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 29 15:25:22 PDT 2008


A few generations ago, when TRMs were Duncan and Larissa, I made them a pair of ceramic goblets, with their personal device on one side and the Ansteorran Star on the other.
 Ly Gabriele
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> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:10:18 -0700> From: serena1570 at yahoo.com> To: steppes at lists.ansteorra.org> Subject: Re: [Steppes] Heraldic rules (was: Does anyone have)> > --- Sir Morgan Buchanan <morganbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:> > > So, and I ask this for educational purposes...> > > > Let's say someone makes something for someone with the King/Queen> > arms on it. Is there something in kingdom law that says they have > > to give it over to the general royal "stuff" pile? Or that merely > > common practice, and they COULD decide to put it in a box and use > > it if they ever won again?> > Nothing in kingdom law, just 800+ years of heraldic law.> > I suppose that a Crown could have a personal hoard of things with the> kingdom arms; some probably do. There's no problem with that as long> as they only use/display those things when they're Crown. But why> make something for someone as a personal gift that they can only use> half the year for only a few years, if ever again?> > Heraldry means something; it's not just pretty pictures. The arms of> Ansteorra say "I am Ansteorra"; the badge/ensign of Ansteorra says "I> am Ansteorran". These are two very different things.> > Robin has a few things with the arms of the Steppes on them, left> over from his tenure as Baron. They are kept as historical items,> and they've come in handy a few times, serving as backup banners and> herald's tabards. But someone hand-painted an achievement of the> Steppes arms (on vellum, with gold leaf and using handmade> period-recipe paints) as a personal gift for him, and we can't in> good conscience display it in our house. So it gets trotted out for> occasional arts & history displays, but otherwise gathers dust in a> closet.> > If the intent is to make a personal gift, it should be, well,> *personal*. Why pour all that love into something someone can't> use/display all the time?> > --Serena> > > > _______________________________________________> Steppes mailing list> Steppes at lists.ansteorra.org> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/steppes-ansteorra.org


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