[Steppes] Heraldic rules (was: Does anyone have)

[Esther]

The Black Star is the populace badge, though, isn't it? So not the symbol of the thrones, but of all of us?

Emma

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Michelle Dodd <lygabrielerdb at hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Michelle Dodd <lygabrielerdb at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Steppes] Heraldic rules (was: Does anyone have)
To: "Steppes Barony" <steppes at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 5:25 PM

A few generations ago, when TRMs were Duncan and Larissa, I made them a pair of
ceramic goblets, with their personal device on one side and the Ansteorran Star
on the other.
 Ly Gabriele
The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are allowed
to remain children all our lives. (Albert Einstein)

> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:10:18 -0700> From: serena1570 at yahoo.com>
To: steppes at lists.ansteorra.org> Subject: Re: [Steppes] Heraldic rules (was:
Does anyone have)> > --- Sir Morgan Buchanan
<morganbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:> > > So, and I ask this for
educational purposes...> > > > Let's say someone makes
something for someone with the King/Queen> > arms on it. Is there
something in kingdom law that says they have > > to give it over to the
general royal "stuff" pile? Or that merely > > common practice,
and they COULD decide to put it in a box and use > > it if they ever won
again?> > Nothing in kingdom law, just 800+ years of heraldic law.>
> I suppose that a Crown could have a personal hoard of things with the>
kingdom arms; some probably do. There's no problem with that as long> as
they only use/display those things when they're Crown. But why> make
something for someone as a personal gift that they can only use> half the
year for only a few years, if ever again?> > Her
 aldry means something; it's not just pretty pictures. The arms of>
Ansteorra say "I am Ansteorra"; the badge/ensign of Ansteorra says
"I> am Ansteorran". These are two very different things.> >
Robin has a few things with the arms of the Steppes on them, left> over from
his tenure as Baron. They are kept as historical items,> and they've come
in handy a few times, serving as backup banners and> herald's tabards.
But someone hand-painted an achievement of the> Steppes arms (on vellum,
with gold leaf and using handmade> period-recipe paints) as a personal gift
for him, and we can't in> good conscience display it in our house. So it
gets trotted out for> occasional arts & history displays, but otherwise
gathers dust in a> closet.> > If the intent is to make a personal
gift, it should be, well,> *personal*. Why pour all that love into something
someone can't> use/display all the time?> > --Serena> > >
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