[Steppes] Steppes Digest, Vol 782, Issue 1
Liz Wilson
ewilson618 at tx.rr.com
Wed Oct 29 17:49:11 PDT 2008
Lauren, I hope to meet you at Coronation. My family is fairly new to the
SCA and we
have only been around for about a year. Because of our kids and their
schedules/beditmes we don't come to as many things as we would like, but I
do find that if you help with some activities at events(as Chiara Francesca
mentioned)
you will gradually get to know people. I don't know everyone yet by
a long way, and there are lots of people I know by sight but not well,
but I just keep working at it. My husband and I are both a little on the
shy side too,
but we are trying to overcome it.
I will be helping Lady Klara with MOC activities at Coronation,
so I hope you will seek us out and introduce yourself!!
Christianna Fergusson
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> 1. Re: Fabric and Yarn Address... (Crandall)
> 2. newbie considering throwing in the towel (Lauren Black)
> 3. Re: newbie considering throwing in the towel (Chiara Francesca)
> 4. Re: newbie considering throwing in the towel (Deb Mach)
> 5. Off topic -- ISO of Notary (Emma Haldan)
> 6. Re: newbie considering throwing in the towel (Vyolante de Oporto)
> 7. Re: newbie considering throwing in the towel (AlKudsi at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Crandall <crandalltwo-scalists at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Steppes] Fabric and Yarn Address...
> To: Barony of Elfsea <elfsea at lists.ansteorra.org>,
> steppes at lists.ansteorra.org
> Message-ID: <809869.22961.qm at web82506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Stopped by today, and I think there is enough fabric to outfit a small
> shire, with yarn to make socks and hats as well.
>
> Crandall, Olde Phart
>
> One's sense of honor is the only thing that does not grow old, and the
> last pleasure, when one is worn out with age, is not, as the poet said,
> making money, but having the respect of one's fellow men.
> -Thucydides
>
>
> --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Brandy Merrell <brandyrose5 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Brandy Merrell <brandyrose5 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [Steppes] Fabric and Yarn Address...
>> To:
>> Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 1:54 PM
>> Address is:
>> 5101 Postwood Drive
>> Keller, TX 76248
>> (817)789-8311
>>
>> I will be home from 1PM and will answer the door until 9PM
>> for anyone who wants to stop by this week (thru Friday)- No
>> call required. This does include today. If you would like
>> to come over this weekend, just shoot me an email with the
>> time, or give me a call and we can arrange it. I will
>> probably leave this arrangement for next week as well.
>>
>> Brandy
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:28:37 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Lauren Black <karania_avalon at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Steppes] newbie considering throwing in the towel
> To: steppes at lists.ansteorra.org
> Message-ID: <462729.42589.qm at web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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> I'm pretty annoyed at this whole thing that basically everybody knows
> everybody and I still don't know many many people as a new SCAer.? I'm
> getting frustrated and why the heck I'm even bothering when all I feel is
> that I'm getting in the way at the events.? I feel when I go to some of?
> some of these things that pretty much nobody speaks to me, with the
> exception of a few people.? I feel very alone and like I'm on my own when
> it comes to learning to play in the SCA.? I may come to coronation, but
> that may be my last event if this is the way things continue to be.
> ?
> ~Lauren
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:47:49 -0700
> From: "Chiara Francesca" <chiara.francesca at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Steppes] newbie considering throwing in the towel
> To: <steppes at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Message-ID: <4907b2bb.1f538c0a.5bed.080d at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> {{HUGS}}
>
> Well, let me give you a horse of a different color but it is still a
> horse. :)
>
> I have lived in the Steppes many years. Served there all those years. I
> think I can safely say I have seen it all, served in almost all the
> offices, played in all the arts and sciences, seem people come and seen
> them go.
>
> Some leave cause of burn out, some cause they are pissed, some cause their
> ego was not stroked enough, some cause they got a divorce or broke up with
> someone in the game and the other half refused to let go of the friends,
> some leave cause they found a different game or college or job that took
> them away, but some come back.
>
> I moved. I am in a totally different state. A week after I got here I
> tried to go out and meet folks. I _thought_ I got ignored, I mean, I felt
> it. I emailed out to the local group. Got lots of "hello, and welcome"
> emails but the Hospitaler herself never returned the contact. I was just
> too busy to keep that up with no return of my invested time and travel. I
> was unpacking a house and getting family settled so I stopped trying.
>
> I finished up what I needed then went to an event that was right by my
> home. It was their crown tournament. There were something like 1900 people
> there. It was incredible. I signed up for a class through their local
> college of embroidery. I am not an embroiderer so that is my challenge
> this year. I had talked to the marshal previously and volunteered to help.
> I got their Eirik (and they told me why the call it that, nice sweet
> story) and lo and behold, he remembered me. He only met me _once_ and
> talked to me for all of 5 minutes but he remembered me! He called me over,
> told me where the staffs were and then paired me up with one of their
> oldest squires in the kingdom. It was great. :)
>
> I got to meet the King and tried to give him greetings from my Knight and
> I ended up stuttering and losing my voice mid sentence. It really scared
> me when he leaned in so close to hear me that I thought he was going to
> bump my head! Yes, I was nervous. But I was delivering an important
> greeting.
>
> I had also volunteered to do clean up duty on closing day. When I came
> back to work, again, they remembered me, called me over, showed me a map
> of the site and told me where the crew was at and the direction they were
> cleaning towards. I had a great weekend.
>
> Now, they know me.
>
> What is my point? My point is that it takes time. My other point is
> something that Sir Morgan said to me about newcomers a loooong time ago
> rang in my head that first day I went to the crown tournament. He said
> that it is a two way street. Newcomers have to put themselves out there
> too. We cannot hand hold them too long or they will get used to it and
> then feel rejected when we let them go to be on their own. I had to put
> myself out there and it took me time to be comfortable enough to do that.
>
> Give it time, put yourself out there some more, if you can, attach
> yourself to a group/mentor. It really works. The Steppes is known for
> their outstanding Hospitalers, take advantage of that fame in your officer
> staff. :)
>
> ?
> Chiara Francesca
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: steppes-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:steppes-
>> bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Black
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:29 PM
>> To: steppes at lists.ansteorra.org
>> Subject: [Steppes] newbie considering throwing in the towel
>>
>> I'm pretty annoyed at this whole thing that basically everybody knows
>> everybody and I still don't know many many people as a new SCAer. I'm
>> getting frustrated and why the heck I'm even bothering when all I feel
>> is that I'm getting in the way at the events. I feel when I go to some
>> of some of these things that pretty much nobody speaks to me, with the
>> exception of a few people. I feel very alone and like I'm on my own
>> when it comes to learning to play in the SCA. I may come to
>> coronation, but that may be my last event if this is the way things
>> continue to be.
>>
>> ~Lauren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:20:06 -0500
> From: "Deb Mach" <dlhmach at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Steppes] newbie considering throwing in the towel
> To: "Chiara Francesca" <chiara.francesca at gmail.com>
> Cc: steppes at lists.ansteorra.org
> Message-ID:
> <e7ee0c8a0810281920n205f58a5xca05542ded937541 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Chiara, I miss you! What a great reminder to all, not just newbies.
> There
> are times I feel out of the loop and we've been around for 2 years
> now...here and there...hit or miss. :) I still have to assert myself to
> meet new people instead of just "hanging with the kids."
>
> Lauren, our family has been really busy and we haven't had as much time to
> play. BUT, if you like kids, I welcome you to join myself (Steppes
> Minister
> of Children) and the kids at Coronation for a couple of hours of crafting
> fun. Christianna, my deputy MoC, and I love to have grown-ups join us to
> help even the odds with the kids. LOL! And some occasional adult
> conversation is always welcome.
>
> Hope to see you on the 8th! I don't know where the MoC activities will
> be,
> but surely there will be someone you ask who can point you towards us.
> (Maybe look for the trail of glue?)
>
> Lady Klara, Steppes MoC
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Chiara Francesca <
> chiara.francesca at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> {{HUGS}}
>>
>> Well, let me give you a horse of a different color but it is still a
>> horse.
>> :)
>>
>> I have lived in the Steppes many years. Served there all those years. I
>> think I can safely say I have seen it all, served in almost all the
>> offices,
>> played in all the arts and sciences, seem people come and seen them go.
>>
>> Some leave cause of burn out, some cause they are pissed, some cause
>> their
>> ego was not stroked enough, some cause they got a divorce or broke up
>> with
>> someone in the game and the other half refused to let go of the friends,
>> some leave cause they found a different game or college or job that took
>> them away, but some come back.
>>
>> I moved. I am in a totally different state. A week after I got here I
>> tried
>> to go out and meet folks. I _thought_ I got ignored, I mean, I felt it. I
>> emailed out to the local group. Got lots of "hello, and welcome" emails
>> but
>> the Hospitaler herself never returned the contact. I was just too busy to
>> keep that up with no return of my invested time and travel. I was
>> unpacking
>> a house and getting family settled so I stopped trying.
>>
>> I finished up what I needed then went to an event that was right by my
>> home. It was their crown tournament. There were something like 1900
>> people
>> there. It was incredible. I signed up for a class through their local
>> college of embroidery. I am not an embroiderer so that is my challenge
>> this
>> year. I had talked to the marshal previously and volunteered to help. I
>> got
>> their Eirik (and they told me why the call it that, nice sweet story) and
>> lo
>> and behold, he remembered me. He only met me _once_ and talked to me for
>> all
>> of 5 minutes but he remembered me! He called me over, told me where the
>> staffs were and then paired me up with one of their oldest squires in the
>> kingdom. It was great. :)
>>
>> I got to meet the King and tried to give him greetings from my Knight and
>> I
>> ended up stuttering and losing my voice mid sentence. It really scared me
>> when he leaned in so close to hear me that I thought he was going to bump
>> my
>> head! Yes, I was nervous. But I was delivering an important greeting.
>>
>> I had also volunteered to do clean up duty on closing day. When I came
>> back
>> to work, again, they remembered me, called me over, showed me a map of
>> the
>> site and told me where the crew was at and the direction they were
>> cleaning
>> towards. I had a great weekend.
>>
>> Now, they know me.
>>
>> What is my point? My point is that it takes time. My other point is
>> something that Sir Morgan said to me about newcomers a loooong time ago
>> rang
>> in my head that first day I went to the crown tournament. He said that it
>> is
>> a two way street. Newcomers have to put themselves out there too. We
>> cannot
>> hand hold them too long or they will get used to it and then feel
>> rejected
>> when we let them go to be on their own. I had to put myself out there and
>> it
>> took me time to be comfortable enough to do that.
>>
>> Give it time, put yourself out there some more, if you can, attach
>> yourself
>> to a group/mentor. It really works. The Steppes is known for their
>> outstanding Hospitalers, take advantage of that fame in your officer
>> staff.
>> :)
>>
>> ?
>> Chiara Francesca
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: steppes-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:steppes-
>> > bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Black
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:29 PM
>> > To: steppes at lists.ansteorra.org
>> > Subject: [Steppes] newbie considering throwing in the towel
>> >
>> > I'm pretty annoyed at this whole thing that basically everybody knows
>> > everybody and I still don't know many many people as a new SCAer. I'm
>> > getting frustrated and why the heck I'm even bothering when all I feel
>> > is that I'm getting in the way at the events. I feel when I go to some
>> > of some of these things that pretty much nobody speaks to me, with the
>> > exception of a few people. I feel very alone and like I'm on my own
>> > when it comes to learning to play in the SCA. I may come to
>> > coronation, but that may be my last event if this is the way things
>> > continue to be.
>> >
>> > ~Lauren
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:13:05 -0700
> From: "Emma Haldan" <emma.haldan at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Steppes] Off topic -- ISO of Notary
> To: "Steppes List" <Steppes at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Message-ID:
> <e58978010810282013i6fd1e115y9a29fdbf76f3c75 at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Does anyone in Steppes do Public Notary? I need to get a copy of my birth
> certificate, so I can get my passport, it I have to get a statement
> notarized. Rather give the $$ to family.
>
> Emma
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:27:57 -0500
> From: "Vyolante de Oporto" <jasiwolf at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Steppes] newbie considering throwing in the towel
> To: "Barony of Steppes - SCA Inc." <steppes at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Message-ID:
> <d87a34d00810282027o794250e8s637d6726600f4612 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Responded Privately,
> Lady Vyolante
> Steppes Hospitaler
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Lauren Black
> <karania_avalon at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty annoyed at this whole thing that basically everybody knows
>> everybody and I still don't know many many people as a new SCAer. I'm
>> getting frustrated and why the heck I'm even bothering when all I feel is
>> that I'm getting in the way at the events. I feel when I go to some of
>> some of these things that pretty much nobody speaks to me, with the
>> exception of a few people. I feel very alone and like I'm on my own when
>> it
>> comes to learning to play in the SCA. I may come to coronation, but that
>> may be my last event if this is the way things continue to be.
>>
>> ~Lauren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:49:25 EDT
> From: AlKudsi at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Steppes] newbie considering throwing in the towel
> To: steppes at lists.ansteorra.org
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> Replied privately
>
> HL Saqra al-Kudsi
>
>
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