abusive e-mail from Litch

Starblade pug at eden.com
Tue Feb 28 17:21:39 PST 1995

>Near as I can tell, I am faulted by several for posting "private" e-mail to 
the list.

Ok...I have known about this situation for the past day, and have been 
talking to several people on and off about it all day today, and am finally 
ready to voice my own (and no one else's) opinion and say: I am deeply offended.

I am not offended by Litch's PRIVATE messages, nor am I offended by your 
posting of said messages publicly without the author's permission. I am 
offended because you, Galen, dragged me into this without asking me if I 
wanted to be involved. I did not, and still DO NOT, but that choice has been 
taken from me, and I was NEVER asked, nor was I given a chance to say so 
until after the fact.

I was one of those who complained to Pug about PRIVATE conversations being 
dragged out into the open where I was FORCED to deal with the people 
involved in a way not of my own choosing. Personally, when Litch posts 
something "abrasive" (or whatever term you wish to use) I simply take a deep 
breath, and delete it. I have learned this the hard way from other flame 
wars I have been invovled with.

>My purpose was simple.  The sort of effect such e-mail has on people is a 
>"chilling effect" on their participation. 

So is having supposedly "private" email dragged out into the public without 
one's permission or knowledge. I for one am much less likely to engage in a 
conversation with you via email now that I know what you can and will do if 
YOU feel it is "necessary", irregardless of how I may feel. 

> If someone is allowed to send
>such notes in secret to individuals, each thinks that he is alone, and the
>sender can terrorize them one by one.  What I did was to shine a light on an
>activity that wants darkness for its effect.  

Personally, I would have chosen another method of doing it, but that's 
another subject.

>I have a sincere desire to get along with the people on this list; including
>Mordraut, who is all but a brother to me, including Pug, even including Litch.
>But in my life I have had occasion to learn that "getting along with" is not
>synonymous with "passively accepting abuse from".

But Galen,what you did to ME, by dragging me into something that concerned 
only you and Litch, also could be construed as "abuse". 

>I believe that my conduct has been appropriate for the circumstances.  

I do not agree. I believe it was highly INappropriate. What started in 
private should have been kept in private, if simply out of courtesy for 
those who were uninvolved before you brought it public. Like me.

>For any inconvenience to anyone, and specifically to Mr. Litchfield, from the
>length of my lines of type, I apologize; I shall endeavor to do better.
>Given similar circumstances, I expect I would react similarly.

I hope you don't...I find it discourteous to be FORCED to witness other 
people's squabbles.

>I remain,
>Viscount Galen of Bristol
>"Noblesse Oblige"

Once again, so that no one can misconstrue my message, I am not getting into 
the issue of "abusive" email from Litch, only about the issue being taken 

Mary Temple
(note - this is NOT my persona name. I believe this is an Internet issue, 
not an SCA issue.)

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     /Catriona Rowley Kerr (aka- Mary (NoxCat) K. Temple             /
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