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dentim at mail.myriad.net dentim at mail.myriad.net
Sun Oct 27 23:38:35 PST 1996

>Heilsa Diarmuit....and all other good folk and true...
>Diarmuit (Marc) replied...>
>>I didn't say that we shouldn't get involved.  That's an entirely separate 
>>point from just accepting the word of an accuser and condemning someone
>>without a trial.  
>I agree... You will note that I wanted more than one witness to these people's
>behavior...and received a missive from an entirely different source, in a
>different place, to confirm their behavior pattern. I also counciled contacting
>the authorities. A person's actions can "condemn" them just as throughly as a
>judge and jury. I do prefer the accused to be arrested and tried... But, my
>point still hods true...we, as a Society, have closed our eyes to to much for
>too long. It needs to stop. If our folk/children or any one else are harmed by
>the actions of a alleged SCA member...we needs must stop these action from
>>On the other hand, I've been accused of enough things
>>in my life that weren't true, but were still believed, that I am a trifle
>>reluctant to place someone else in that position, or to encourage that sort
>>of attitude.  If that offends you, then at least I *have* committed that
>>offense, and in front of these witnesses, accept that responsibility.
>I, too, have been accused of many things in my life. Some justly, many
>unjustly. I take responsibility for my actions...if someone accuses me of wrong
>doing, then I will confront them, in front of witnesses, and ask for their
>proofs. I also expect anyone that I accuse to confront me in like manner. If
>I'm wrong in either case...I'll take my medicine...
>I'm absolutely not offended by your beliefs. They are yours... My beliefs are
>mine... I dare say each of us is equally valid in our viewpoints... We approach
>the problem from different directions...but with the same ultimate goal...the
>>You are certainly entitled to your "better safe than sorry" feelings... <snip>
>I would shoot a "rabid" dog if I saw one going to attack someone or their
>child...and would worry about testing the animal later. The point is that if
>one waits too long people can be injured or even killed.
>>I would prefer to keep myself "more safethan sorry" by trying as hard as I 
>>can to not convict in my mind people I don't know based solely on what other 
>>people... <snip>
>True, "better safe than sorry" can take on many forms. Remember though, 
>"Forewarned is forearmed..."
>><snip>...and just pray that I'm not accused of any serious crimes where I 
>>can be so prejudged, or anyone I care about.
>Folk can always be accused by those that have an "agenda" However, unlike the
>people in this scenario, you would stand and face your accusers and not flee in
>the night...
>>These people may well be the total excressence that they've been accused of
>>being, and certainly, it is appropriate that a certain amount of caution
>>might be advised in dealing with them.  It is debateable whether this is
>>an appropriate forum for that sort of caution.  I personally think that it
>>is not, but that is simply *my* opinion.
>Again, these folk may well be an abnormal outgrowth of the naivete and trust of
>our mindset...and a _lot_ of caution needs to be excerised in dealing with
>them... It may well be that their focus on alleged military service has put
>them in a fight or flight mode of thinking...
>Hmmmmm...I think that this forum is mostly appropriate for this discussion. The
>focus of our thoughts are involved with SCA behavior and people. And how better
>"get the message out" than this medium? 
>I would like to see any further updates on these folk posted on this list...but
>we might be going on a bit much about this for some folks tastes...
>>Better the nail than one's thumb.
>In order to not hit one's thumb....one must have control of the hammer...
>In respect and friendship...I remain...
>Sir Kief av Kiersted
>"Better the Hammer than the nail..."

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