ANST - Meetings and Volume at any Court
Tim McDaniel
tmcd at crl.com
Thu Jan 15 21:00:12 PST 1998
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Baron Burke / Burke McCrory
<bmccrory at oktax.state.ok.us> wrote:
> ... more than capable of getting to the dais without aid.
> BUT, that is a mostly a 20th century perspective. Ladies
> in most places in the middle ages would have always been
> escorted, to not be would have been scandalous.
Do you have evidence conveniently to hand?
> I think, and will continue to encourage, that any lady
> called into the presence to be escorted as a statement of
> the high standing that we hold all ladies in.
And I will continue to say that it should be the *lady's*
choice as to whether she wants to be escorted, and if so
*she* should reach out to the man. Otherwise, she's put on
the spot of spurning a man immediately in public, or of
having unwelcome company. If *she* wants him, fine by me.
In the chivalric romances, I doubt that the ardent knight
ripped the sleeve off his beloved's dress as a favor. *She*
might bestow the favor on him (or bestow her more intimate
favors, leading to her husband discovering them, leading to
lots of deaths and a great romance). *His* job was to
languish for love and venerate expectantly, and take
whatever romantic crumbs she tossed to him.
I think it's a lot like the debate about "points of honor"
on the list field. In brief, some say it's a good thing and
ought to be encouraged, and some consider it insulting. The
problem is that they're coming from two mutually-exclusive
axioms, and you can generate a logical theory of chivalric
conduct from either. That means the most you can hope for
is convincing a few of the others that your axiom is better,
or at least get them to recognize that there *is* a
legitimate difference.
Daniel de Lincolia
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