ANST - Nobility..

[Timothy A. McDaniel]

On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Burke McCrory <burkemc at ionet.net> wrote:
> But a triple peer is not a Noble (as in title, not in actions).

Arguing dictionary definitions is always iffy, particularly in this
case where SCA usage isn't in the Oxford English Dictionary from the
early 1900s.  Nevertheless, I'll blunder on.  You're defining "noble"
== "landed or ex-landed".  I follow the OED in thinking it "of high
rank" and similar meanings.  In SCA terms, I use "peer" to mean
"member of an order of peers who receive patents" = Laurel + Pel +
Chiv.  A "peer" is, in my terms, a "noble", and so is a court baron.

And I don't see that all nobles, even by your definition, should
outrank all non-nobles.  I easily found several counter-examples in
England.  (Prime Minister at level 9 just below the Archbishop of
York.  The Speaker of the House of Commons at level 13 just above the
Lord Privy Seal.  Sons of peers.  Bishops are lords of Parliament but
not peers; arguable.  Secretaries of State.)

Daniel de Lincolia
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