ANST - Re: Why am I playing this game

[Gail P. Taylor]

HL Anya's Post can be viewed in several ways.  A few follow:

It can be a reminder of the profound effect that our words and behavior can
have, even indirectly, on others.
It can be a reminder to all of us to strive to be polite to one another.
It can be a reminder to Peers and those "higher up" of the words gifted them at
their Vigils/ceremonies, involving the inferred/implied responsibilities that
membership in their orders convey.

However...it is also a cry from a person who has been overcome with
disillusionment over of an incident where some fallible human beings failed to
live up to her standards of what Peers or SCA members should be.   I chose to
address this issue.

HL Anya sounds like a sensitive, compassionate person, and I hope that rather
than choosing to leave in response to a few people forgetting themselves, she
stays to promote the ideals that the SCA is founded upon.

Isobel


Dana Schuman wrote:

>                 > >
> HL Catherine and HL Isobel,
>
> I think you have missed the point of HL Anya's post. In my opinion, it
> wasn't about whether or not people are perfect, or what jerks we all can be.
>
> It was about the actions of 4 people, 2 of them peers(who in my opinion
> should have known better), ganging up on one singular peer and backing the
> peer into a corner with "no means of escape". I believe HL Anya said there
> were 4 people attacking one, not 2.  I think you may have misconstrued that
> as well, or you may other information that I do not posses.  I feel that
> even though HL Anya did not know exactly what was being said, the fact was
> that this was done IN PUBLIC, where SCA and NON-SCA people could witness the
> entire altercation.  She apparently heard screeching and witnessed 4 people
> advancing on one.  I feel if she witnessed that, then so could others.  The
> opportunity was there to make a negative impression on the public.
> Something the SCA as a whole has been fighting against since its birth.
>
>  I have no idea why this action took place, but I am overly concerned that
> the people in question behaved inappropriately in a business establishment.
>
> Those 4 people who backed the one into a display were not behaving, in my
> eyes, as adults should.  I feel the 2 peers of the group (being Peers of the
> Realm and raised to that position not only because of there area(s) of
> expertise, but of their past actions of chivalry and grace)  should have
> realized this may not have been a good thing and suggested their
> disagreements be continued in a less public environment and at a later time
> so that every one could gather their thoughts and opinions and present them
> to each other in a more civilized manner.  Thus resolving the issue
> courteously and with dignity for all involved.
>
> Isobel, you also suggested that the lone peer may have done something really
> bad to warrant this attack by the others.  I was raised in the SCA to think
> that if one did something "really bad", higher authorities, such as the
> Crown or Kingdom Seneschal or the like, would be notified and consulted on
> the matter.  So there would be no action like this one and so the SCA would
> always be in positive public opinion.  It would all be handled with civility
> with everyone giving and receiving the respect they are due, where no one is
> slighted or treated without respect and feels as if there is no escape or no
> way to defend themselves.
>
> The actions of the people involved are the issue here.  And the question was
> raised by HL Anya "what do we do?" , "what do I do?" about such behavior.
> I know what I will do, I will stand as an example to others of what to be,
> not what not to be.  I will show others what dignity, grace, and honor mean.
> I will strive to never do what those 4 people have done to that lone peer,
> treating another with no respect or dignity.
>
> I was raised to treat your lessers as equals, your equals as betters, and
> your betters with the highest reverence.  I will pass that on as well.
>
>
> Annais de Montgomerie
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