ANST - Why am I playng this game?

[Garrett, Chris]

I believe that this message has been ignored, I think it shows that we would
rather just pretend that someone who has taken the time and effort to
achieve peerage in our society should be something more than human. They are
not. Some people have so much respect for the peers that they don't have any
left for themselves, and question why should They get involved.

I don't care if you are a peer, or just a sometimes player, if you act this
way you have given up any right you ever had to the common courtesy and the
"Higher Road" that we try to follow. There are proper ways to deal with even
the most serious problems in our Society, screaming at each other is not one
of them.

I really don't have any solutions to offer, but I think a good place to
start is here, in this list, even the most entrenched practices can be
changed if enough people stand against them.


Try to remember that your enemy is never a villain in his own eyes,
and keeping this in mind, you may find a way to make them your friend,
and barring that, to kill them quickly, and without hate.

Ashril Khebtu'ut Khan 
Squire to Sir Maxmillian
Meddling where he doesn't belong (again) 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Karen [mailto:tyrca at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 1:41 PM
To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG
Subject: Re: ANST - Why am I playng this game?


Good Day, Ansteorra,

I was greatly disturbed to read the letter from HL Anya,
concerning the actions of individuals in public, and although I
wasn't there, don't know for certain who was involved, and do
not even want to speculate, I would like to offer her my
condolances for witnessing such an embarrassing display.

I think that this might be the reason that I have not seen a
response to this letter here on the list, because it is such an
embarrasing thing that we would almost rather avert our eyes
than to stare at the immature behavior of some of our members. 
At least I would hope so.  I wouldn't want anyone to think that
because we have little to say on this subject, we support that
sort of behavior.

I also want to thank HL Anya for not bringing names or
circumstances into this list.  As most of us are not  close
enough to be able to deal with this problem, unfortunately we
are close enough to gossip unsubstantiated.  I think it is good
to continue to be anonymous, and not bring personalities into
this.

I do remember the "dinosaur days" though back when I started
playing almost 20 years ago.  These were times that an aggrieved
individual could ask for redress with a court of chivalry.  But
I don't know that this is any longer possible in our Society
now, when we are so much more willing to sue over trivialities,
and revise the truth to our own benefit.

In closing, I would like HL Anya to take this with her as she
goes to  North Carolina.  Please do not leave our numbers.  For 
all the good people who leave because of the actions of others,
we become weaker and less able to resist honorless and
unchivalric behavior.  Those of us who support honor need to
stand up and say so, or this kind of behavior will not only
continue, but increase.  We are not a perfect society, and we
are not perfect people, but until we are willing to stand up and
say that such behavior is wrong, we will be inundated with such.

Tyrca

>>>>>>>>
Greetings,

For my learnings in the SCA during the past 15 years I have been

playing, I understand that dignity and honor are the highest
goals for what we strive. It is what we base our awards, choose
our rulers and create peers. Last night I was an unwilling
witness to an event that not only had me questioning the honor
and dignity of our group but had me wondering if I even wanted
to continue membership.

An altercation occurred between 4 people (2 being peers) and
another person who is also a peer. The four obviously had a
grievance that they wished to discuss as they initiated the
altercation. While I was not privy to the subject matter (nor do
I wish to be) I was rather distressed by the raised voices (one
screeching) of the people initiating the discussion. From what I
can see, they had the one peer backed up against a display with
no real means of escape. They then proceeded to reduce the
single peer to tears. This was conducted in a *very* public
place with many non-SCA people watching (if not hearing). I am
not sure if I can ever show my face in that establishment again.

The question that I wish to pose is "What should I do?" "What
should we all do?" 

(snip)

I am going on a week vacation to a family reunion in North
Carolina. I plan to take that time to reflect whether or not I
wish to continuing playing. I thank you for your time and
attention.


The Honorable Lady Anya Gordon Lamont

Award of Arms, Kingdom of Calontir=20
Holder of the Sable Thisle of Ansteorra
Member of the Order of the Iris of Merit
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