[Ansteorra] Too many events?

Fri Apr 26 22:28:40 PDT 2002

This goes back to the earliest days of the Kingdom.  To my knowledge we
have never actually required a group to hold 1 or 2 events per year.  The
sections of Corpora that Her Excellency quoted are probably the source for
the misunderstanding on the issue.  We have strongly encouraged groups to
hold at least one event per year to prove they existed and are healthy.  In
the beginning of the Kingdom we also were also hoping to actually fill the
calender.  Over the years the number of groups and events have grown to the
point that we have begun to restrict the number of events a group can have
on the calender.  I have to agree with Jean Paul and Countess Rebekah that
the overall quality of our events has suffered because there are so
many.  I remember the Tourney of the Cloth of Gold, Lions, Dream Tourney,
Tourney of Chivalry, and many others in the earlier days of the Kingdom
that followed no set pattern but broke new ground.  While we have a few
groups that are trying to be innovative (like Brad Leah's Conquest next
weekend) most events come right out of the box.   I would vote to have
fewer but better more innovative events.

Sir Burke

At 05:30 PM 4/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Romanius -
>     I will admit to having been out of the loop for a while.  Would you
>please show me where the requirement to hold at least one event a year and
>two for baronies is published?  Corpora says that Baronies should have "a
>strong record of activity in a variety of fields of Society endeavor."
>Kingdom Law does require Baronies to have events on their perpetual event
>date, but this may be waived with a petition from the Baron/Baroness.
>Kingdom Law says that baronies must have "A record of at least two (2) years
>of regular activity including hosting events in all fields of Society
>endeavor."  Ok, we have to have Crown, Coronation, Queens, A&S, Eisteddfod,
>Kings College, Archer, Academies of Rapier & Bow, King's Lancer, but many of
>these are held in conjunction with other events, and only Crown and
>Coronation are protected from conflict on the calendar.
>     Perhaps I am old fashioned and my views are a bit dated, but as my
>participation is limited, I do usually choose to attend the  events where I
>can sit and watch the persona play.  I will be at Squires, because I very
>much enjoyed watching the tournament in the afternoon that was/will be open
>only to knights.  They may take their squires and men at arms to fight with
>them, but they are responsible for taking ransoms and for ransoming their
>men if they see fit.  I hope to see you on the field with your squires.
>     I maintain that if we didn't feel the need to rush together so many
>events, we could take the time to do some research and put together really
>nice events.  Since I only get to very few events, I prefer that they not
>all be the same 'cookie cutter' event:  best two of three single elim
>tournament, stick the rapier guys off in a corner, an A&S contest by
>populace vote, baronial court, and then everybody can go have pizza.  I'd
>rather attend the Cloth of Gold.
>
>Countess Rebekah
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Baran" <chris_baran at hotmail.com>
>To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
>Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 4:57 PM
>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Too many events?
>
>
>Greetings all,
>
>Perhaps I'm not seeing something, but how will offering fewer events create
>a different type of tourney?  If a group puts on a new and different type of
>tourney, like say a barrier tourney, that event will draw more fighters who
>are looking for something new and different.  Heck, it would be sort of like
>a market mentality.  Those groups that put on really good events will draw
>the most people...H'mmmm.
>
>Not to mention, there has been a proliferation of events on the calendar due
>to the number of groups in the Kingdom.  Remember, every group is supposed
>to hold at least one event a year...Baronies have to hold two.  There are
>only 52 weeks in the year.  If you do the math you'll see that that right
>there is enough to fill the calendar with one or two events each weekend.
>The add Kingdom events (Crown, coronation) on top of that, Gulf Wars, and so
>on.  Perhaps if we limited each group to one event per year with Baronies
>only having two...That would open up the calendar and let groups have more
>time to focus on their one (or two) events per year.
>
>Oh yea, and maybe some people like having the choice of several events to go
>to on a weekend...
>
>Sir Romanius
>
>
> >From: "Rebecca Bevel" <rebevel at hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org
> >To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Too many events?
> >Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:13:58 -0500
> >
> >What?  Less events?  If we have less events, people might be able to plan
> >something other than a standard double elim list!  We certainly don't want
> >to see any fancy Passage of Arms or other weird lists.  Harumph.  Next
> >thing
> >you know we'll see things like Lions and Worthies.  Harumph.
> >
> >Rebekah
> >a supporter of fewer, more quality events since ASXX
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Brian Martin" <BMartin at corp.prodigy.com>
> >To: <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
> >Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 2:03 PM
> >Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] Too many events?
> >
> >
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> > > Yes, I think that we do have too many events, and I think that it is
> > > partially the cause for the issues listed below.
> > >
> > > Pendaran
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cchipman at nomadics.com [mailto:cchipman at nomadics.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:45 PM
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> > > Subject: [Ansteorra] Too many events?
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> > > I'm curious, does anyone ever feel that we have just too many events?  I
> > > mean, it would take almost three years of eventing every weekend for a
> > > person to go to every regular event that was scheduled...not to mention
> > > one time events that happen.  Add in regional events and kingdom level
> > > events and it gets extremely packed.  I wonder if this event crowding
> > > can be a causal factor for
> > >
> > > a)       People leaving site early
> > > b)       Lack of activities on Sunday.
> > > c)       No activities on Friday.
> > >
> > > Would we be better off if we encouraged LESS events?
> > >
> > > Jean Paul de Sens
> > >
> > > Carl Chipman
> > > Nomadics, Inc. <mailto:Inc.cchipman at nomadics.com>
> > > cchipman at nomadics.com
> > >  <http://www.nomadics.com/> http://www.nomadics.com
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