[Ansteorra] Event Limits?

Miss Pict lady_pict2 at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 19 10:48:15 PDT 2003


I would like to back up the suggestion for smaller groups to bid on Kingdom 
events.
The Canton of Dragonsfire Tor in the central region bid on Crown Tournament 
in October. We never thought we had a chance. Low and behold our small 
canton will be hosting the event.

If you do not put in a bid. You cannot win it. Don’t think you are too small 
to try. This will be a whole new experience for us to learn from, and I for 
one am excited about it.

Just my two cents.
Lady Janie of Dragonsfire Tor



>From: "Elizabeth Crouchet" <ecrouchet at austin.rr.com>
>Reply-To: ecrouchet at austin.rr.com,   "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc." 
><ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
>To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at ansteorra.org>
>Subject: RE: [Ansteorra] Event Limits?
>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 10:39:02 -0500
>
>On 19 Aug 2003 at 9:58, Ron wrote:
><snip>
>  All this does in my opinion
> > is cause the smaller groups to not be able to count on the income of a
> > second calendar event. The smaller groups need the oppritunity to gain
> > the income from those events. I'd like to see more Kingdom events
> > given to shires and cantons if this goes into effect. That would allow
> > those groups an oppritunity to get additional funds to help keep them
> > functioning.
> >
> > Eirik
>
>
>Part of getting those events is bidding for them. I understand that at the 
>next crown
>tournament they will be accepting bids for the next Queens Championship 
>tournament. I
>would love to see some smaller groups bid for that. There are many 
>interesting places to
>go in this kingdom. Kingdom level events are often easier to put together 
>or staff since
>the theme and much of the work are already scheduled to be done by someone 
>on the
>kingdom level. That leaves the local group to be just the hosts. That is a 
>great chance to
>shine with hospitality and not have the event get lost in a theme that 
>might or might not
>have been well staffed.
>
>Even with bad weather, Queen's is usually well attended. January should be 
>post
>Christmas bookings so that can make it easier to get a site. I remember 
>that
>Shadowlands used to host Queen's often when I was there. All we had to do 
>was book a
>site, build a field, cook a feast and open a gate. Marshalling and running 
>the list usually
>had someone on a kingdom level to be in charge of it. And the Court and 
>Crown areas
>were often coordinated by the Crown's entourage.The timing and the events 
>were
>already scheduled and predictable.  If we scheduled entertainment it was at 
>the request
>of the Crown and was often a bardic event or dancing of some kind that was 
>easy to
>coordinate.
>
>Just some observations and some encouragement. The Crown often has few if 
>any bids
>to choose from and rarely has a specific group in mind for the event ahead 
>of time. I
>suspect that if they get no bids they  may request a Barony or other large 
>group because
>it has more resources to deal with putting together a last minute event.
>
>If you have researched sites, discussed it at a populace meeting or two and 
>have
>volunteers to fill the positions, then without having done anything 
>concrete you are half
>way to putting on the event. Write that down and send it to the Crown. You 
>can often
>reserve a site and still be able to cancel with no money down or a full 
>refund if you
>cancel way ahead of time. So reserve the site before Crown Tournament and 
>then
>cancel immediately afterwards if you don't get the bid. That is still 
>several months
>ahead.
>
>I understand that money is tight for small groups, it is for everyone. So 
>is time, so grab
>what you can. You can also offer to do some portion of a larger group's 
>event and make
>a deal for a percentage of the profits. Run and staff the gate or make the 
>feast or serve
>the feast or provide the tables or loan them something you have (like a 
>reviewing stand).
>
>Well that was long winded enough. I hope someone finds it useful.
>
>Claire Shayhan
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