[Ansteorra] Event Etiquette

letebts at earthlink.net letebts at earthlink.net
Thu May 22 05:34:44 PDT 2003

As long as we are being gross, I can remember more than one cleanup where I
carried glass jars of urine to the trash from where people's campsites had
been. I will say, however, they *were* courteous enough to screw the lid
back on the jars. Eugh!

Cleanup crews ought to receive *huge* goodie baskets for clearing out what
the neo-SCA people leave in their wake. The cleanup people typically get a
mention in a general post afterwards, if they get that. But that's another
thread, those thank-yous, isn't it?

Still in service to the dream,

on 5/21/03 10:16 PM, Bill and/or Terry Smith at wc-tjsmith at sbcglobal.net

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> Vivat and thank you for posting this Sir Burke! I find it interesting that no
> one has yet replied to this post.  As a member of the clean-up crew at Eldern
> XXV, I echo Sir Burke's words and add these of my own. The condition of the
> bath-house restrooms was indeed deplorable.  These were clearly marked as "out
> of order". It saddens and sickens me that apparently *numerous* so-called
> "gentles" would disregard this fact.  These individuals are not the SCA that I
> grew up with. There was another problem at Eldern XXV.  The site rules clearly
> stated that the site was discreetly wet.  Alcoholic beverages in *period*
> containers only.  We found beer cans on top of the trash cans in the men's
> room at the hall.  We found a rather large pile of beer, whiskey, etc. bottles
> on the table under the open air pavillion.  Come on folks.  We can and *must*
> do better.  The SCA has lost access to countless event sites because of
> actions such as these.  I personally know of 3.   I hope all Ansteorrans will
> take up Sir Burke's challenge.  I, for one, will.   I will do my best to
> further educate the newcomers in our area.  And I will do whatever is
> necessary to prevent the loss of another site and the tarnishing of the SCA's
> good name due to ignorance and/or apathy such as was demonstrated at Eldern
> XXV.  In service,Master Artorius ap Caradoc, O.P.
> Burke McCrory <burkemc at cox.net> wrote:--
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> Greetings to the Populace of Ansteorra,
> Several incidents that have occurred at recent events have gotten me to
> thinking about event etiquette and the obvious poor job we are doing. At
> the recent Crown Tourney so wonderfully put on by the Barony of Northkeep,
> some people seem to have forgotten our old adage of "leaving the site
> cleaner and better than you found it". After all the pavilions were
> brought down and the tents struck, the clean up crews found piles of
> cigarette butts and other trash left behind in a number of locations. To
> my mind this is unacceptable for a group that prides itself on our
> ideals. It doesn't take much to bring a butt can if you smoke or have a
> trash sack under your pavilion or in your camp. My Lords and Ladies we
> really must do a better job.
> Then at the Eldern Hills XXV Championship the next week we were faced
> with the fury of mother nature. I applaud and commend Baroness Adria, her
> staff, and the people of the Eldern Hills for putting on a first class
> event even after Friday night storms knocked out power to most of the camp
> for the weekend. With the lose of power also came the loss of water site
> wide except for the main hall. This was especially inconvenient as it made
> the main bathhouse and restroom unusable. Announcements were made in court
> and signs were posted on the entrances to the bathhouse informing people
> that the restrooms were closed. But some people disregarded the signs and
> used the bathrooms anyway, even knowing that there was no way to flush
> them. This was not very nice, as well as being a potential public heath
> hazard. Camp Cimarron has a number of primitive restroom facilities that
> were available around the site in addition to the main hall restrooms were
> power and water were still on. This lack of courtesy was not well received
> on Sunday when the cleanup staff went up to check the bathhouse. It took
> more than a hour to clean the facilities as water had to be trucked up from
> the hall. People this is just unacceptable no matter what your excuse.
> My Lords and Ladies, I challenge you all to do a better job at events
> in the future. Take pride in your campsites and pavilions, have butt cans
> and trash bags available even if you don't smoke or plan on eating under
> your pavilion. Encourage others who come to your pavilions or campsites to
> use the facilities you provide. Hide your mundane items under a throw rug
> or peace of fabric. Teach newcomers what is expected of them as the come
> into our game. And most especially cooperate and obey the signs that the
> autocrats put up on facilities that are not available. If we all try and
> do this our game will become just a little bit better and more fun.
> So again I say unto you Ansteorra we can do better!!!
> Baron Sir Burke Kyriell MacDonald, op.
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