[Ansteorra] Provinces, a stunned question

[HerrDetlef at aol.com]

With all due respect, Hawkins, I must take issue with the level of discourse 
you have directed towards Master Alden.  While I may not personally agree with 
his position on the matter, I believe he has every right to voice his 
concerns.  I also believe that this thread should consist of a discussion of the 
issue at hand, and not a dismissal of one person's concerns because of the manner 
in which that person voiced those concerns. 
In a message dated 1/28/2006 2:34:45 AM Central Standard Time, 
cebackus at hotmail.com writes:

How is being short with a lady part of the "ideal" model we try to 
recreate?  
How is asking a lady if she has a valid point being short with her?  If she 
has a valid point (and she does), there is nothing wrong at all with 
articulating that point.
How is publicly disagreeing with a decision made by your feudal 
lord (or the lord of your feudal lord) part of the historical model you seem 
to idealize?  
Questioning the sovereign's actions isn't period?  Barons often waged civil 
wars against their sovereigns throughout the period, but Master Alden has not 
even suggested denying the validity of the Crown's actions, much less mustering 
an army against the Crown over those actions.  In fact, he said that, 
although he isn't convinced about the decision, he accepts it.  One might argue that 
Alden's acceptance in the face of perplexity is not period.
Isn't public debate on an internet forum about as modern as 
they come?  
How is attacking Master Alden "public debate"?  Stick to the issue and avoid 
these ad hominem fallacies.
Or if we prefer the historical model,should someone simply give 
you the lie direct and end this conversation?
If the sign to end this thread hasn't already come, it comes here.  We have 
long forgotten the issue at hand.  It seems Master Alden's concerns will not 
get addressed.  Alas!

Detlef

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