[Ansteorra] Hard hitters (was Re: Armor inspections at GulfWars)

Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace sirlyonel at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 23 09:07:45 PDT 2007

Salut cozyns,

If another fighter wants to take every shot that touches his or her grill, 
that's fine. What I hate is that most of them want everyone else to do 
likewise. The current wording in the SCA Marshal's Handbook says:

All “fully armored” fighters are presumed to be wearing a chain hauberk over 
a padded gambeson, with boiled leather arm and leg defenses and an 
open-faced iron helm with a nasal. The helm may be presumed by Kingdom 
convention to include a very light chain mail drape, permitting vision and 
resisting cuts by the mere touch of a bladed weapon.
a. Under this standard, an acceptable cutting blow to the face would be 
lighter than to other portions of the head or body. Areas deemed illegal to 
strike (the wrists from 1 inch [25.4mm] above the hands, from 1 inch 
[25.4mm] above the knees and below) shall be considered safe from all 
b. The minimum effective thrusting blow to the face shall be a directed 
touch and the maximum shall be substantially lighter than to other parts of 
the body.

That "directed touch" statement is read by some to mean any deliberate shot 
to the face that touches the grill. In accordance with the standards, 
however, a thrust to the face that just reaches far enough to tough the 
grill without being hard enough to impart any momentum to the recipient's 
helm is a thrust that never would have reached the face if the grill had not 
been present. I don't know what your knight had in mind, Bors, but I teach 
my squires to take shots according to the armor standard.

En Lyonel
Impedimentum via est
(The obstacle is the path)

>From: Baronman at aol.com
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>To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Hard hitters (was Re: Armor inspections at 
>Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:42:43 EDT
>In a message dated 3/22/2007 10:12:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>sirlyonel at hotmail.com writes:
>Gleann  Abhann fighters tend to take pretty
>light shots, including anything that  touches the face of a helm as a kill.
>Back when I was a pup learning how to fight, my knight told me that any  
>that hits my grill I better call or he would make sure I would the next
>time.  To this day, I will call anything touching my grill no matter how  
>light or
>heavy. Just the  way I was taught.
>Baron Bors of Lothian
>Baron Loch  Soillier
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