[Ansteorra] SCA, the ADA, and all of us

[Dave Wise]

It is always impressive to see how quick some folks are to spend other 
people's money while demanding their 'rights'.  As Niklas points out, if 
you want to know what is, or is not, required, I would recommend going 
to the sources.  In this case, there is the originating law, the 
regulations and relevant court decisions.  As a practicing attorney, I 
can tell you that the ADA does not ''guarantee equal access and equal 
enjoyment"  However, rather than carrying on about someone's opinion as 
to what may be 'required', if folks are that interested in having 
facilities to their liking, then perhaps their passion  and energy 
should be directed towards autocratting events that cater to their 
preferences.  Alternatively, that same energy could be spent on making 
improvements to the sites that have historically been used for SCA 
events.  I would think that any property owner who has had dealings with 
the SCA would be far more responsive to an offer to improve the 
property, rather than threats over their 'non-compliance with the law'.  
Such an approach respects their rights as property owners and makes us 
the gracious guests we would like to be known as.  Surely, that go much 
farther in keeping site available for our future use.

Alexis

Paul Gilbert wrote:

>Greetings....
>
>As one that occasionally deals with the ADA code as well as several 
>other federal codes (FCC, FEMA, DHS, Etc) in my job....
>
>Most of the subject of which has been discussed here falls under 28 CFR 
>Regulations and mostly in Part 36, basically known as ADA Title III 
>considerations.
>
>This covers the access regulations of ...
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>PART 36 -- NONDISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF DISABILITY BY PUBLIC 
>ACCOMMODATIONS AND IN COMMERCIAL FACILITIES...
>
>I put to you this task....
>
>Quote us chapter and verse in the code where it says....
>
>...guarantee EQUAL ACCESS and EQUAL ENJOYMENT....
>
>I for one have never seen it detailed that way.
>
>Maybe I missed it.
>
>I do know that some organizations interpret the code in that manner.
>
>Also, based on the restrictions that someone outlined in a previous 
>post, who is willing to pay 20-30 dollars or higher site fees for 
>non-camping events ?
>
>Folks, it is a balance of common sense.
>
>One of my favorite sayings of Master Modius is...
>
>"What would the common man do?"
>
>No one is going to "win" this debate. Only carry it on longer and 
>longer, louder and louder....
>
>Think about it, do what you can to help your fellow man but never loose 
>sight of the final goal....
>
>Balance...
>
>.....balance in life is good and in politics, but seldom seen.
>
>In Service,
>
>Baron Niklas Vasilevich
>Barony of Bryn Gwlad
>
>
>
>
>Chass wrote:
>  
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>>     The A.D.A. is exactly what I think it is, it is a law that is
>>supposed to gurantee EQUAL ACCESS and EQUAL ENJOYMENT. 
>>    
>>
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>snip....
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>  
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>>     I didn't say it was not difficult to find sites... but it does take
>>looking, which is what we are complaining about. Even when sites are
>>offered they are not looked into. How do I know you may ask. I call and
>>talk to the sites before I offer them up and when I call back and ask if
>>anyone from the SCA had called and get a NO...... 
>>
>>Chass Brown A.K.A. 
>>
>>Charinthalis Del Sans of the portable chariot. 
>>
>>Honorable Recruiter of the House of the Red Shark.
>>
>>Muddeler of Mead
>>
>>
>>    
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