[Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves

[brendan_mcewan at dhope.net]

As with all things not nailed down, the announcing has become a tradition with consideration given to what the recipient would want.  Many scarves make new outfits, invite friends, etc to this special occasion.  Also, with the exeption of archery, none of the other grant level awards are terminal awards.

Brendan


----- Original Message ----
From: Cisco Cividanes <engtrktwo at earthlink.net>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2007 1:33:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves


REALLY????

This is in total contradiction to the scarves I have seen made in the
north.
I honestly didn't know that advanced announcement was commonplace.
Thank you for that correction, Lord Brendon.

Ivo Blackhawk


brendan_mcewan at dhope.net wrote:
> Modius and Llewelyn both had vigils.
>
> And about 80%-90%, they are announced.  White scarves rarely are made on the spot.
>
> Brendan
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: gail young <gwynethb63 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 7, 2007 1:05:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Vigils for White Scarves
>
>
> If I am correct in my thinking, this was held after the award was actually given.
>   Once again, I may be wrong and probably should have just kept my mouth shut<G>
>   gwyneth
>
> Cisco Cividanes <engtrktwo at earthlink.net> wrote:
>   I have seen white scarves given, and as the award is a grant level, I 
> believe it is usually given instantly, with no advanced notification. 
> None of the white scarves I know have ever mentioned sitting vigil, and 
> none of the awards I saw with my own eyes included a vigil.
>
> per the OP, I understand that a white scarf is equal in rank to the 
> centurion, and they do not traditionally hold vigil either. (again, the 
> recipient is usually given all of thirty seconds warning before the 
> cloak is thrown over his shoulders.)
>
> I'm sure their has been exceptions to the rule, but I am fairly 
> confident that Vigils in Anstorra are popularly considered to be acts 
> reserved for pending knights, laurels or pelicans.
>
> Lord Ivo Blackhawk
>
> Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace wrote:
>   
>> Salut cozyns,
>>
>> An interesting thread was initiated on the SCA Chivalry list in 
>> response to the first member of the Order of the Western White Scarf. 
>> Apparently that gentleman sat a vigil. From an historical perspective, 
>> anyone can choose to hold a vigil prior to any major life change, but 
>> I began wondering about former and current practices here.
>>
>> Do candidates for the White Scarf in Ansteorra ever hold vigils? If 
>> yes, is this the norm or a rare event?
>>
>> Merces.
>>
>> En Lyonel
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