-----Original Message----- From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Troop0341 at aol.com Sent: 2007 - November 11 - Sunday 12:56 As for sneering at fencers... Just how does one sneer at one's self??? ... easy ... use a mirror. useful for a host of things not just sneering at self (G)