[Ansteorra] Falling down

Tue May 27 21:50:20 PDT 2008

Unto Jean Paul, the esteemed Earl Marshal, does Terafan Greydragon send
greetings,

	Can you elaborate what kind of falling down is happening in our fair
kingdom that fighters get hurt doing so??  

I have been doing armoured combat in more than 6 different kingdoms over the
past 20 years and have yet to see a "high percentage of injuries" that are a
result of fighters falling down after being struck on the tourney field.  

Is there some magic happening in Ansteorra that I have missed in the almost
20 year gap between my first sojourn in this great kingdom and my current
sojourn here?   I don't understand the reluctance in having fighters fall
down on the tourney field in front of the Crown and the populace...

Can you help me understand??

cheers,
   Terafan

Master Rhys Terafan Greydragon     terafan at greydragon.org
Brewer, Tent and Furniture maker, and other things I can't remember... 

-----Original Message-----
From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
[mailto:ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Jean Paul de
Sens
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:20 PM
To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Falling down

As always, fighters may acknowledge any blow in any fashion that permits
their opponent to understand that the blow has been successfully struck with
intent and force. Saying good loudly and falling down are the best
indicator, but are not the only ones allowed.

I point that a high percentage of our injuries last year were from contact
with the ground.

Finally, fighters who continue to strike opponents repeatedly after a clear
indication of a clean blow so as to impose their viewpoint of combat will be
sanctioned.

Sieur Jean Paul de Sens
Earl Marshal

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Jerry <dreifuerst at gmail.com> wrote:
> Greeting gentles of the Stellar Kingdom from Othar Morganson, 
> Stargate's Knight Marshal.
>
> We here in Stargate would like to start a "new" tradition on the 
> fighting fields.  We're open to finding a name for it, but so far the 
> lead choice is "dying."
>
> With the Crown and Earl Marshal's permission, we'd like to allow 
> fighters to fall, crumple, drop, or in some other way fail to remain 
> standing when struck with a blow sufficient to incapacitate or kill
through our armor*.
> Sir William of Weir taught local fighters on this topic** often, for 
> he also taught "Hit 'em until they fall down."
>
> To assist those fighters that complain that the ground is hard, is 
> dirty and has fire ants, we also would petition the Crown to hear by 
> declare that all list fields are now soft, clean and ant free.
>
> For the many non-fighting participants (marshals, heralds, 
> waterbearers) and spectators (consorts, nobles, Crowns, mundanes, 
> etc.) we thank you fighters in advance for trying out this "new" 
> concept at your next list field combat.  We know that your honest 
> attempts at recreating a medieval combat will guide you to making the 
> right choice when you are next struck by a good blow.
> Yours in Service to Baron and King,
>
> Othar Morganson,
>   Fighter, Trainer, Curmudgeon
>
> * Fully armored: For the purposes of acknowledging blows, a fully 
> armored fighter is presumed to be wearing a lightweight, 
> short-sleeved, knee-length, riveted-mail hauberk over a padded 
> gambeson, with boiled leather arm and leg defenses and an open-faced 
> iron helm with a nasal. (The helm may be presumed to include a very 
> light chain mail drape permitting vision and resisting cuts by a mere 
> touch of a bladed weapon.) Also, the hands, wrists, knees and lower 
> legs, and feet, including the areas up to 1 inch (2.5cm) above the 
> kneecap and 1 inch (2.5cm) above the bend of the wrist, are not legal
targets.
>
> ** "Pick up your right foot, now pick up your left foot.  No, no, I 
> didn't tell you to put your right foot down.  Keep it up while you 
> pick up your left foot.  I promise you can fall down if you do this."
>
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