[Ansteorra] Falling down

Tue May 27 22:03:21 PDT 2008

:) It's a numbers game combined with tongue-in-cheek, and you'll
notice I said "contact with the ground."

We've had about six reportable injuries in armoured combat over last
year.. one was a fighter who tripped and broke his shoulder.  One
tripped over a step and broke a toe.  Another twisted ankle... :) all
of those had a fighter in contact with the ground :)

Actually, now that I consider it, since I think all of the injuries
had fighters who were not defying gravity, they also were in contact
with the ground, making it 100% .

Seriously though, my apologies for the confusion, and should not have
included a tongue-in-cheek attempt at humor in a mostly serious email.

JP

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Barclay, Peter C LTC MIL USA FORSCOM
<peter.c.barclay at us.army.mil> wrote:
> Unto Jean Paul, the esteemed Earl Marshal, does Terafan Greydragon send
> greetings,
>
>        Can you elaborate what kind of falling down is happening in our fair
> kingdom that fighters get hurt doing so??
>
> I have been doing armoured combat in more than 6 different kingdoms over the
> past 20 years and have yet to see a "high percentage of injuries" that are a
> result of fighters falling down after being struck on the tourney field.
>
> Is there some magic happening in Ansteorra that I have missed in the almost
> 20 year gap between my first sojourn in this great kingdom and my current
> sojourn here?   I don't understand the reluctance in having fighters fall
> down on the tourney field in front of the Crown and the populace...
>
> Can you help me understand??
>
> cheers,
>   Terafan
>
> Master Rhys Terafan Greydragon     terafan at greydragon.org
> Brewer, Tent and Furniture maker, and other things I can't remember...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:ansteorra-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Jean Paul de
> Sens
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:20 PM
> To: Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Falling down
>
> As always, fighters may acknowledge any blow in any fashion that permits
> their opponent to understand that the blow has been successfully struck with
> intent and force. Saying good loudly and falling down are the best
> indicator, but are not the only ones allowed.
>
> I point that a high percentage of our injuries last year were from contact
> with the ground.
>
> Finally, fighters who continue to strike opponents repeatedly after a clear
> indication of a clean blow so as to impose their viewpoint of combat will be
> sanctioned.
>
> Sieur Jean Paul de Sens
> Earl Marshal
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Jerry <dreifuerst at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Greeting gentles of the Stellar Kingdom from Othar Morganson,
>> Stargate's Knight Marshal.
>>
>> We here in Stargate would like to start a "new" tradition on the
>> fighting fields.  We're open to finding a name for it, but so far the
>> lead choice is "dying."
>>
>> With the Crown and Earl Marshal's permission, we'd like to allow
>> fighters to fall, crumple, drop, or in some other way fail to remain
>> standing when struck with a blow sufficient to incapacitate or kill
> through our armor*.
>> Sir William of Weir taught local fighters on this topic** often, for
>> he also taught "Hit 'em until they fall down."
>>
>> To assist those fighters that complain that the ground is hard, is
>> dirty and has fire ants, we also would petition the Crown to hear by
>> declare that all list fields are now soft, clean and ant free.
>>
>> For the many non-fighting participants (marshals, heralds,
>> waterbearers) and spectators (consorts, nobles, Crowns, mundanes,
>> etc.) we thank you fighters in advance for trying out this "new"
>> concept at your next list field combat.  We know that your honest
>> attempts at recreating a medieval combat will guide you to making the
>> right choice when you are next struck by a good blow.
>> Yours in Service to Baron and King,
>>
>> Othar Morganson,
>>   Fighter, Trainer, Curmudgeon
>>
>> * Fully armored: For the purposes of acknowledging blows, a fully
>> armored fighter is presumed to be wearing a lightweight,
>> short-sleeved, knee-length, riveted-mail hauberk over a padded
>> gambeson, with boiled leather arm and leg defenses and an open-faced
>> iron helm with a nasal. (The helm may be presumed to include a very
>> light chain mail drape permitting vision and resisting cuts by a mere
>> touch of a bladed weapon.) Also, the hands, wrists, knees and lower
>> legs, and feet, including the areas up to 1 inch (2.5cm) above the
>> kneecap and 1 inch (2.5cm) above the bend of the wrist, are not legal
> targets.
>>
>> ** "Pick up your right foot, now pick up your left foot.  No, no, I
>> didn't tell you to put your right foot down.  Keep it up while you
>> pick up your left foot.  I promise you can fall down if you do this."
>>
>> --
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