ARCH - Royal Huntsman

Bob Dewart gilli at
Tue Apr 3 13:45:59 PDT 2001

It's all a question of want to.  There are ways of doing anything, if there
is a want to.

Other than the fact it hasn't been done, there could be a Kingdom event
protocol set up.  For example Crown is now on a region rotational basis,
didn't use to be.  If no one in the region whose turn it is dosen't put in a
bid, then it's up for grabs.  They could, if they wanted to, further say
that Shires and Canton in that region had first deebs on the event.  They
could do that with every event; if they wanted to.  Or perhaps the shires
and cantons would have first deebs on even years.  That would spreed the
wealth around a bit more.

If they wanted to.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Wilim Penbras" <wilim.penbras at>
To: <ansteorra-archery at>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: ARCH - Royal Huntsman

> If I can play devil's advocate for a moment I'll point out one thing
without even thinking about motives for keeping Queen's Champion a seperate
> One event, hosted by a single group.  Gives the Kingdom a certain revenue
based on a percentage of the profits.  This event might be a huge event and
take in a considerable ammount but the host group WILL have to get a
percentage.  Figure all of the regular heavies, lights, bards, Archers, and
Equestrians will be there.  It could easily be an 1000 person event  the
kingdom will get a nice percentage of that as it is a kingdom event(I wanna
say 30%?).  9 events that are Kingdom events will still draw a good number
of regular people plus the specialty group maybe around 250 people .  Bam
the kingdom just got 30% of the equivalent of a 2000+ person event instead
of 30% of a single 1000 person event.
> Then there's the consideration that you really sometimes have to spread
the Kingdom events around so perhaps some of the smaller areas get a chance
at hosting a larger event and so the Crown has an excuse to go there and see
a few hundred instead of only a hundred or so.
> All of these are simply opinions and are not offered as motives or
explainations for the basting the Eadric got in private to his suggestion.
> In Service,
>      Wilim
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Bob Dewart" <gilli at>
> Reply-To: ansteorra-archery at
> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:08:47 -0500
> >I see, I need to get back on that list.
> >
> >Kigdom Law starts out with a blank page.  Then someone starts adding
> >to it.
> >
> >That same withing six weeks could be added to any of the Champion events.
> >In fact it would be better to have a separte "Crown's Champions" tourny.
> >But they won't want another event to raise money for the Kingdom.
> >
> >But until it makes it's way into Kingdom law, we're just a bunch
> >of----------------.
> >
> >Gilli
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mills, Scott" <Scott.Mills at>
> >To: <ansteorra-archery at>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:26 PM
> >Subject: RE: ARCH - Royal Huntsman
> >
> >
> >> Oh please don't go there.
> >>
> >> I just got Royally beat up on the Redtape list last week over this.
> >the
> >> bruises to prove it.
> >>
> >> Obviously Queens Champion is special.  It is protected by kingdom law.
> >> is the only such champion event that gets that special kinda treatment
> >> kingdom law.  Law says that It shall be held each reign and that it
> >be
> >> held no later than 6 weeks after coronation.
> >>
> >> I suggested that we reserve dates on the Kingdom Calendar for Royal
> >> Champions other than just Queens Champion or perhaps we have a single
> >"Royal
> >> Champions" event where all the Royal champions are chosen on a single
> >> weekend.  I was speaking not just out of concern for Royal Huntsman but
> >Also
> >> Lancer, Bard, and those other that often get overlooked and tacked onto
> >> other events with little notice AFTER the Royal progress is announced.
> >> maintained that IF these other events were to flourish and the
> >> grow then there should be some additional support from the Kingdom and
> >> Crown.
> >>
> >> In short I got told that the Royal Champion events other than Queens
> >not
> >> deserve their own date on the calendar and that one big event where
> >> would all be chosen would not happen.  HRH Larissa said that she would
> >never
> >> consider sharing the Queens Champion day with any other Royal
> >> activity period and end of subject.
> >>
> >> Even though it was bad on the Redtape list, I got a lot of privately
> >> addressed of what was basically hatemail for even suggesting that we
> >> worthy of the same consideration that Queens Champion is.
> >>
> >> All that said, Master Richard did volunteer that he would start putting
> >> his monthly column a listing of all the events that he needs bids for
> >> list all of these other Royal Championships in that list.
> >>
> >> In short, if WE the archery community want the Royal Huntsman tourney
> >> happen regularly and to be included on the calendar and some notice
> >> the WE are going to have to work with our own local branches and get
> >to
> >> agree to sponsor the Royal Huntsman events.  We need to do this well in
> >> advance and be prepared AT EACH CROWN TOURNAMENT to present a bid to
> >> Kingdom Seneschal and TRH for the Huntsman Tourney in the next reign.
> >That
> >> way while they are working out their Royal Progress they can consider
> >> Royal Huntsman and award the tourney to someone.
> >>
> >> In Service,
> >>
> >> Eadric
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dewart, Charles R. --G3 Contractor (Anteon Corp)
> >> Subject: RE: ARCH - Royal Huntsman
> >>
> >>
> >> Say, speaking of progress and that sort of thing, why don't we sorta
> >> give HRH Duncan a nugge to start thinking now about when They would
> >to
> >> do it when They become Their Majesties?
> >>
> >> Has there been any move to normalize when the Royal Huntsman will be
> >chosen?
> >> Like King's Champion is chosen the day of Coronation, Queen's Champion
> >> chosen 3 weeks after Coronation.
> >>
> >> Yea, it just got a whole light lighter in here.  Oh, there's a light
> >> over my head.  :)  Why don't we do it just like Queen's Champion on say
> >the
> >> 5th weekend after Coronation.  We could also conduct a Mini Academy of
> >> Bow at the same time.  It would work out so that one would be in the
> >middle
> >> of the season and one just before Gulf War(which I think would be a
> >> good thing).
> >>
> >> What do you all think?
> >>
> >> Gilli
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
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