[Ansteorra-archery] a compromise for your perusal

Chuck Kaun jack_a_lope31 at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 15 09:02:40 PST 2012

I also dont like the thought of splitting the archery community but when you have such disparate groups that have become large enough to have their own voice like CA now has done, then you need to take both sides and not just say "then you need to get so much better than I am so you MIGHT have a chance to win".  That is not right. 
I like the idea of two champions because it showcases archers a bit more but I can also see your point on how this could upset the apple cart
How about a compromise to the ideas that have been tossed out there?  Right now there are three groups, only one of which plays both games and the other two are about the same size.  There are two RH tourneys a year, make one CA oriented and the other Target oriented.  Is this optimal?  No.  Does it make both sides happy?  Maybe less disgruntled.  Is it the fairest solution to be had without blowing everything up and telling one or the other group to suck it up because they dont matter?  A possibility.  
And before jumping on the "I can only play once a year because I dont like the other side of the coin?" bandwagon please remember that there is only one Kingdom artisan and one kingdom bard competition per year.
Something to think on.
And yes, there is always "the current RH makes the format with the likes of the crown"  If a 6 month alternating RH happened then the stepping down would set up the format for the tourney 6 months after they step down, so like stays with like. 
And yes, the crown has the right to say "I want my Huntsman to join me on the field of battle".  Then even if it is the target archery tourney, all archers who are competing know what is expected of them during that reign and stay or go as wanted.  
I would like to see everybody less disgruntled and have an equal chance at playing the game they want.  Hopefully I can help.
Karl Thorgeirsson

> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:04:52 -0400
> From: wilim.penbras at pandora.org
> To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Kings Archer
> If I recall correctly, I was the first Kings Archer to be awarded 
> between battles @ Gulf War, I'm pretty sure I wasn't the last. I've 
> also made it to the final rounds of more than a couple of Archery 
> Tournaments and was even the Last Man Standing once. (Not the Huntsman 
> Tourney but... oh well)
> I've been the Archery General @ Gulf War one year when Ironwyrm couldn't 
> make it. I've worn the Kings Baldric as a member of his guard, awarded 
> after a particularly hairy Swiss Five Tourney.
> I mention this so you'll know I say this with love. Smarten up. I am 
> really tired of CA being treated like a red headed Step child by the 
> heavy community and we've all worked way to hard to change that just to 
> be treated like red headed step children by the target archery 
> community. We are all Archers. Splitting up and adding new Champions 
> is NOT a Good Thing. Sometimes the Royal Huntsman will put Venison on 
> the table and sometimes Trimarians.
> Do I like a tournament whose format that makes the previous rounds 
> moot? Not particularly, that's why I've suggested a modification that 
> prevents that, Target only shooters just need to be far enough ahead 
> that me getting a chance at an extra 20 points or so will still let them 
> win.
> Suggesting that we put two Archers behind the thrones WILL make people 
> decide which THEY value more and pretty much undo untold number of years 
> of getting TA recognized as valuable.
> YiS,
> Lord Wilim Penbras
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