[Ansteorra-missile] Ansteorra's army needs you!

[Mike]

I received my copy of the Blackstar Monday, 08-21-2006, evening of. In 
which Sir Jean Paul wrote clarifications on various rules, NOT NEW RULES 
changes.

In fact, the rules have been clear about who can take the field in the 
case of an official event vs that of practice for some time, even going 
back before I was authorized (2000). This topic concerning authorization 
always come up when we are training new individuals, and the answer has 
always been the same -

To take the field at an event, then all individuals wishing to do so 
must be authorized prior to that event. In the case of practice, then 
all an individual has to do is read the waiver, and if he or she agrees 
with the terms, print and then signed their modern name to the wavier. 
Then the process of introduction to SCA combat can start with training 
and authorization if the individual(s) find that being with liked minded 
people who are enjoying themselves in this game that we all play.

Remember these are clarifications NOT NEW rules changes.

Sir Jean Paul's statements in the BlackStar September 2006:
"The clarifications for the upcoming fall tournament and war seasons are:

1. You must have a valid fighter authorization card *or* a temporary 
authorization form to fight in any tournament or melee at an official 
event. This should seem obvious, but I know that there are "day 
authorizations" that have been given. I wish this practice to halt. If 
there is a fighter who wants to fight in the tournament, get that 
fighter authorized before.

2. It is the responsibility of the inspecting marshal to verify that a 
fighter has a valid fighter authorization card. It is not the list 
mistresses responsibility. If the list mistress/master wishes to assist 
and check cards for the inspecting marshal so that the fighter does not 
have to try to bring their green card with them while encumbered by 
their armour, shield sword, pole arm, spear... (Ok, perhaps that's just 
Asoph, Daffy, and me) they may do so, but ultimately it is the 
responsibility of the inspection marshal.

The above is what has been published in the September 2006 Black Star. 
Sir Jean Paul's written address to the population starts on page 4 and 
is completed on page 5."

There is also a notice from Sir Jean Paul on page 5 prior to the 
clarifications that appear there as well as which is written above, 
which states the following:
"I will make sure that the marshallate virtual scribe updates the 
pertinent information on the marshal web pages:

http/:marshal.ansteorra.org

Look for many changes to be posted there in the near future."

 From the Earl Marshal of the Kingdom of Ansteorra, Sieur Jean Paul de Sens.


Lord Michael Kettering



Ironwyrm wrote:

>Hold that thought Michael, I've contacted several of the 
>  other missile combat authorizing marshals but no one 
>  seems to have a copy of September's Blackstar yet.  
>   
>  We'll try to confirm and see if we can get updated on 
>  this. 
>   
>  Ironwyrm
>  
>
>Mike <meggiddo at netzero.net> wrote:
>  The main point of my 1st message was to call attention to whether the 
>event in question - Gothic Wars - had been changed some how from a 
>War/Melee event into a practice, since no announcement was forth coming 
>from the Western Region. This brings me to your earlier message 
>announcing that the event in question would be a practice, which 
>generated my message. Since the group who is hosting was calling this 
>event an official SCA War/Melee event, while you were calling it a 
>practice. Just like the two aspect of SCA combat, tournament or 
>war/melee, training and authorization are separate with complete and 
>different means and definitions. Thus, needing to establish a base or 
>starting point, in at least agreement within the subjects of War/Melee, 
>practice, training and authorization. This understanding having been 
>reached, the discussion can continue in regard to who can be on a 
>War/Melee field versus that of a practice field.
>
>People who are wishing to attend events that have been so designated as 
>an Official War/Melee events and take the field must be authorized prior 
>to taking the field.
>
>This was pointed out to me recently by a heavily fighter concerning a 
>different issue and so reminded me of the nature of authorizations, 
>although similar in nature which was under discussion at that point in 
>time. Plus, our Earl Marshal of Ansteorra, Sir Jean Paul also stated the 
>very same thing in his message contain within the Black Star of 
>September 2006.
>
>Those people who are not authorized, can not take the field at War/Melee 
>events, until they are authorized . Which means that they must get 
>authorized prior to taking part in an Event that has officially be 
>declared as a War/Melee event and not a practice. While if it is a 
>practice, which you were calling Gothic Wars, then the unauthorized 
>individuals can take the field, which is one reason for having a 
>practice, to see more people come out, share the joy and the excitement 
>of being in this game that we all enjoy playing while providing the 
>necessary training which leads to authorization.
>
>A Catch 22 - all around for everyone who wishes to actually see more 
>people become involved in this game that we all enjoy and play. So what 
>is the solution? Simple - get more avenues/locations to enable more 
>people the opportunity to be authorized other than just the three 
>War/Melee events that are present on the calendar. Meaning become more 
>pro-active in working with the various groups that are putting on events 
>throughout the year and not wait until the last 3 months or so at the 
>end of the year (September, October and first 3 weeks of November) and 
>the 1st 2 months (January and February) of the next year to start this 
>training/authorization process, which all leads to Gulf Wars. Start 
>requesting time and the necessary space needed for "hands-on" training, 
>so there is not a crunch due to being confined within such a limited 
>window of opportunity.
>
>It is not picking at nits in this matter nor is it an attempt to sow 
>discord among anyone - It is simple a matter of recognizing the 
>limitations that are in place for the enjoyment of all, while ensuring 
>that equal parts of fun and safety are present. This is why there are 
>restrictions in who can take the field and who can not, these 
>limitations are better known as SCA's authorizations. This is all about 
>being responsible for not only one's fun and safety but that of the 
>individual standing beside you, plus that individual who is also 
>standing facing you from the opposing side(s) as well, (i.e., the 
>various scenarios of a 3 Kings come to mind). There is peace of mind 
>present, which is assumed that everyone has been authorized and have a 
>good grasp of the the rules and more importantly how to conduct 
>themselves on the SCA battlefield. While the odds would say that the 
>unauthorized individual would not understand and could placed the same 
>individuals standing beside him/her or facing them in danger from the 
>sheer lack of knowledge of an SCA battlefield. Afterall, there is vast 
>gulf between just talking and the actual hands on experience of SCA combat.
>
>It needs to be mention again and as often as possible - This game we all 
>play is about "FUN" and being "SAFE" while playing.
>
>If just anyone who wishes to to get into some type of armor and take 
>part in an official SCA War/Melee event without being proper trained and 
>authorized in their weapon of choice - then there would be chaos in 
>large letters with injuries and some of them being severed. The 
>unauthorized individual(s) could indeed be part of this and not even 
>realized what the issue is until after it has happen.
>
>This game is physical in nature, as such, anyone who wishes to take part 
>in the SCA combat, be it as a heavy fighter, or rapier, or combat 
>archery, siege, the marshals who give up their time to ensure that both 
>fun and safety are on the field in equal parts, this also includes those 
>good gentles to make the sacrifice of their time by carrying water and 
>other goodies to all on the field. All of these and others as well, 
>everyone must be authorized prior to taking the field at a official 
>War/Melee event.
>
>Yes, as it stands it now - Gothic Wars, 3 Kings and Autumn Melees events 
>are the only War/Melee events that are on the calendar and possible be 
>used as authorization/training opportunities that could be extremely 
>useful if handle properly. Although I am hearing about the Northern 
>Region and their war practices which I think are generating good 
>training and possible authorizations. It is misleading to call these 
>War/Melee events as "Practices", for that is not what they are.
>
>If you and/or the other authorizing marshals wish to conduct a 
>training/authorization practice at the end of the War/Melee scenarios 
>and ask for help from among the heavy fighters to assist in this 
>process, then by all means do so. In fact, you and the rest of the 
>missile community might be surprise by the positive response to such an 
>opportunity or you might have already do so. But if you handle the 
>presentation and actually follow through poorly with little thought 
>given to the fact that the majority of the gentles who wish to attend a 
>War/Melee event with all the high persona activity that goes with being 
>involved with the SCA, only to get to event and the field, to discover 
>that the War/Melee event has somehow become more of a practice (or 
>"shanghaied"), then the endeavor is doom.
>
>One of the best examples of conducting a practice after having completed 
>the War/Melee scenarios occurred at a 3 Kings back in 2004 (I believe, I 
>think you were there as well), which was His Grace, Sir Patrick Michael 
>had the both sides form up facing each other and run a number of 
>scenarios around the fort at that time, although no new authorizations 
>took place to the best of my knowledge. Yet it is still a good example.
>
>A proper training/authorization opportunity or practice needs to 
>consists of equal parts of actually "hands on" followed by a debriefing 
>of not only those good gentles who wish to be authorized in whatever 
>weapon form of their choice, but more importantly the opportunity of 
>those who are already authorized and assisting to provided their 
>observances as well. Since, these gentles are the ones who either 
>enjoyed an advantage or was placed at a disadvantage during that 
>scenario. Which all means that this is taking time away from actually 
>scenarios - thus you could have a 5 minute or 10 minute scenario, 
>followed with 5 to 10 minutes or more time in discussion on the various 
>aspects of that scenario from various viewpoints. The weather also needs 
>to taken into consideration for these training scenarios, just like it 
>will have to be taken in account for the scenarios at Gothic Wars 
>event. A practice that everyone who is present and wishes to see 
>success in the necessary training will have the patience to stand down 
>during the de-briefing and actually be pro-active in sharing their 
>knowledge as well.
>
>If on the other hand, there is no discussion between scenarios and just 
>hurry instructions, if any, before the authorize must get back onto the 
>field for the next scenario, then you have a disaster waiting either for 
>that day or next one or in the future, it will happen and then everyone 
>will scratched their heads, point to the authorizing marshal with all 
>kinds of questions. Yet the real damage will have been done to the 
>individual who was rushed with little thought given to proper feedback, 
>which needs to be undertake in a calm environment without worrying about 
>time spent away from actual combat and the next scenario(s), which can 
>occurred only at a practice.
>
>Proper preparations prior to taking the field and effective 
>communications are the key to ensure that all who will be attending have 
>a good understand of just when the official event ends and the 
>training/authorization practice/process will start at an official event.
>
>Separate issue and not related to any of the above:
>Apologies? If I am reading the context (i.e., intent - which is always 
>extremely difficult to do with any email correspondence) of that portion 
>of your 2nd email correctly, then - The only person who can apology for 
>my actions, words, deeds, emails, and/or omissions is myself. Anyone 
>else attempting to do so is just "Spitting into the Wind." And we all 
>know what's happens there.
>
>
>Lord Michael Kettering
>
>
>
>Ironwyrm wrote:
>
>  
>
>>OK, I stand corrected. Gothic is a War/Melee event, 
>>however it's also an authorization/training oppertunity 
>>(as with every inter-kingdom melee event) for those 
>>new to combat archery or others wanting to get 
>>authorized or re-authorized. To that is what I refer. 
>>
>>Nit pick the terminology all you wish Michael but 
>>nothing has been "shanghaied", the post was just 
>>an attempt to encourage our combat archers and 
>>those seeking to authorize as combat archers to 
>>attend the "Gothic" event. Should you wish to 
>>expolt the post as an oppertunity sow discord 
>>between us or among the ranks for god knows what 
>>reason there's little I can do about it, it's an open list. 
>>
>>I do apoligee others upon this list and again ask that 
>>you come and join us at "Gothic War"!
>>
>>Regards, 
>>
>>Ironwyrm
>>
>>
>>
>>Mike wrote:
>>War Practice?
>>
>>There is a War/Melee event called Gothic Wars taking place with already 
>>scenarios set-up centering around from last year's War/Melee event. But 
>>no practice has been called by the individuals who are hosting nor from 
>>the reading the contents of the message traffic that are aware that this 
>>War/Melee event has been shanghaied into a practice.
>>
>>So when did Gothic Wars - the War/Melee event get change - to that of a 
>>mere practice?
>>
>>Lord Michael Kettering
>>
>>
>>Ironwyrm wrote:
>>
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>>    
>>
>>>Tis' true, the start of our war season is almost upon us 
>>>and Ansteorra's "Army of Heros" needs combat archers!
>>>
>>>
>>>Our first inter-kingdom war practice is "Gothic War" 
>>>being held this coming Labor Day weekend within the 
>>>Shire of Blacklake in western region at Lake Sweetwater 
>>>Municipal Park. Ready your bows & crossbows, combat 
>>>arrows & bolts, your armor and come take your place 
>>>among your fellow Ansteorran warriors! 
>>>
>>>If you're new to combat archery and need to start your 
>>>authorization process this is an excellent event to begin
>>>your battlefield training. Several of our kingdom's 
>>>authorizing missile combat marshals will be attending 
>>>this event and able to assist you in that process. Be 
>>>advised, one war practice will not get you authorized, 
>>>however it will get you started and the more you attend 
>>>our war practices closer you'll be to gaining that missile 
>>>combat authorization. 
>>>
>>>Remember to get to the event's missile inspection point 
>>>early as it takes a while to inspect all those combat 
>>>missiles. New combat archers, we'll need to spend 
>>>some extra time with you so you really need to be there 
>>>early.
>>>
>>>Looking forward to seeing everyone there and on other 
>>>battlefields in the coming months! 
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Ironwyrm
>>>
>>>aka HL William Black Dragon 
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