[Ansteorra-missile] New Question on Authorization for Combat Archers

[John Moore]

The last comment is one of the reasons we don't need those kind of people on 
the field as much as I would like to have more bodies on it.  The other ones 
I don't like are "I can't take a hit to so and so."  If you are not 
physically able to take the field and have the possibility of being hit then 
please do all the rest of a favor and stay off.  It is not only for their 
safety but for the safety and peace of mind on all else on the field.

When we did Eadric's wife's authorization I took her over to the armour 
inspection point and had her inspected by the southern regional marshal.  I 
then borrowed a bastard sword and proceeded to give her 3 good blows in 
ascending strength.  I then asked her if they were good and asked the 
marshals present if she had accepted and reacted to the blows to their 
satisfaction.  Of course, the answered yes.  She then went over to were 
Eadric was starting the 50 questions section of the authorization and 
participated in that discussion.  She along with several others were then 
given the ok to play for the day and we would sign their cards afterwards if 
they behaved in the manner required.  It works well when it is thought out 
and of course goes to plan.

Iaen Mor
John Moore
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike" <meggiddo at netzero.net>
To: "Missile combat in Ansteorra" <ansteorra-missile at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-missile] New Question on Authorization for Combat 
Archers


> Thank you.
>
> I have gone back re-read your previous emails and found the phrase of
> which "and that they know what a killing blow is and how
> to react to them. " Since it was a portion of a large paragraph it did
> not jump out when I read it the 1st time.
>
> Your third paragraph in which you spelled it out in those very terms
> that they do not need to become "proficiency with sword and shield or
> anything other than missile weapons." But be able to recognized a good
> killing blow and NOT have it done while a melee scenario is going on.
>
> This is what I thought was missing from previous emails on this subject.
>
> Fully agree with getting to realized that they can be hit and should be
> as you put it "hit on a few times." I know for a fact that it has been a
> sore subject for a number of heavy fighters that the perception, which
> always out come out ahead of the real facts, is that a majority of
> combat archers were not being introduced to this reality of a SCA
> battlefield. And it did not help to have various individuals walked over
> and make statements along the lines of:
>
> "I will become a combat archer if I can be guarantee of never being hit."
>
>
> Ld Michael Kettering
>
>
>
>
> Eadric Anstapa wrote:
>
>>Mike wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Do have a new question.
>>>
>>>Since there is only Full Contact or Heavy Combat Archer authorizations.
>>>This requires not only the authorization of for missile (combat archery)
>>>but that of the a heavy fighter authorization as well. Which makes sense
>>>since the individual taking field as an combat archer would at some time
>>>would received a "killing blow" to either the helm or the body or a
>>>wounding to the arm or leg.
>>>
>>>So, will these individuals will have at least gone through the heavy
>>>fighter portion of the authorization process prior to attending Gothic 
>>>Wars?
>>>
>>>
>>>Lord Michael Kettering
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Michael,
>>
>>If the person is already Armored Combat authorized and is simply seeking
>>the new Missile Combat Weapons form then it can speed things up but it
>>is not strictly required.
>>
>>The sample process that I sent out yesterday was necessarily brief to be
>>included in the email but there was a point where I said "and that they
>>know what a killing blow is and how to react to them."   This is the
>>point where we take the person wanting to be authorized, in their full
>>armor, over to a group of fighters and marshals and for lack of a better
>>term "get them hit on a few times".
>>
>>They don't have to show any proficiency with sword and shield or
>>anything other than missile weapons.  They simply have to show that they
>>can behave as a Full Contact Combatant on the melee field.  They should
>>experience light, good ,and heavy killing blows and thrusts and be able
>>to recognize them as such.  It is very important that the first time
>>they get hit is not in an active mellee.
>>
>>Again, the time needed to do these types of things is one of the reasons
>>that it is of the utmost importance that people needed authorization
>>arrange with the authorizing marshals in advance so that the appropriate
>>time can be set aside.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>HL Eadric Anstapa
>>eadric at scabrewer.com
>>
>>
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