[Ansteorra-missile] UHMW Blunts (was Clear the bow!)

John Moore iaenmor at swbell.net
Fri Dec 14 15:22:49 PST 2007


A sink pipe that Eadric mentioned seems to work the best.  Easy to use 
and keep sharp for cutting but won't rip you up if you slip.  The drill 
idea looks like it would be a bit messy.  Oh, sharpen the pipe on the 
inside if I recall correctly. 

Iaen

Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair wrote:
> While we're on the topic of UHMW blunt construction.  What have you 
> found is the best / easiest way of cutting out the foam?  I've been 
> using a hole saw in a drill running in reverse.  I use the next size up 
> from 1 1/4" or the disks are too small.  I have to run the drill in 
> reverse or it just tears up the foam.  I'm just not sure how well that 
> will work with 1" foam.
>
> For those in the OKC area, I found a supplier:
> Allied Foam Fabricators Inc
> Ask for Kenny
> 902 N Ann Arbor Ave
> Oklahoma City, OK , 73127-5827 
> Phone: 405-946-0384
>
> A 4'x6' sheet of 1" is $52.80.  I believe they will also sell smaller 
> pieces.
>
> Donnchadh
>
> Eadric Anstapa wrote:
>   
>> As Iaen say the crosslinked foam is holding up well.   Thats the whole 
>> point of a crosslinked foam.
>>
>> Crosslinked means there are extra molecular bonds and it is a tougher 
>> material.  Think of it as a 3D molecular structure versus a 2D foam.
>>
>> lets say a regular poly would have a molecular structure like this
>> 0-0
>> then a crosslinked poly it might be like this:
>> 0-0
>> \ /
>>  0
>> Thats a way over simplification of course.
>>
>> Crosslinked foams are used where durability is needed like with gaskets 
>> and closures.  Lets say have have a big door that opens a closes and 
>> have want a foam gasket to seal things off when the door closes.  You 
>> would use a crosslinked foam because it can handle the abuse of the 
>> compression/decompression.  So far it  is holding up much better than 
>> "standard" closed cell foams for us.
>>
>> I am sure it compresses some.  I know if a marshal got out his 
>> micrometer that it would be less than 1" but so far it hasn't compressed 
>> enough  that marshals have blinked.
>>
>> There are several foam and packaging suppliers here in Houston where I 
>> can get the foam.  Just start calling around your town and talking to 
>> folks that are knowledgeable about that business.
>>
>> Or  you can buy the foam disks from the Company of St. Sebastian for a 
>> dime each when we have em available.
>>
>> -EA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Moore wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>>> By "standard blue foam" I was referring to the Walmart camping pads 
>>>> you're talking about.  The packaging says they're 1/2", but they're 
>>>> actually 7/16", so two layers will get you 7/8", more than the 3/4" 
>>>> required for GulfWars, but not the 1" currently required for Ansteorra, 
>>>> that takes 3 layers.
>>>>
>>>> I realized during this discussion, that I was thinking of the 3/4" 
>>>> GulfWars standards, not the 1/2" SCA standards when I was thinking about 
>>>> how hard they hit.  I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to get hit with just 
>>>> a 1/2" blunt.  I know that in addition to GulfWars, Trimaris and 
>>>> Meridies also use the 3/4".  Do you think that 3/4" would be a good 
>>>> thickness for us to standardize on as well?  I would be happy to help 
>>>> you do your experiment again and shoot you a number of times with some 
>>>> 3/4" bolts for comparison... all in the name of science of course =)
>>>>
>>>> Also, If you're buying 1" foam, do you have to worry about it 
>>>> compressing under 1" after a while?  Where do you get your foam from?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Donnchadh
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
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