[Bards] Just looking for some feed back

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Wihtric - you just answered for yourself why the translation we choose is
"One Star" because "Lone Star" means Texas :) We all know that Ansteorra
was chosen as a reference to Texas, but those of us in Oklahoma would
prefer to be included :) Additionally, "One Star" does not necessarily
refer to the translation of Ansteorra - our heraldic banner has one star,
thus it is perfectly legitimate to say that our BANNER has "one star" and
thus we are "one army". Also, as a Trimarian, I would FAR prefer to hear
this rather than "death to Trimaris" which is particularly insulting and
does not promote the "war without enemies" that we purport to fight :)

However, I absolutely love your Old English breakdown as a Linguist and get
where you are coming from there on appropriate translation :)

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 5:33 PM, R. Culver <captbigdamnhero at gmail.com> wrote:

> Master Robin,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.  I will weigh it carefully.
>
> As to the "an steorran", in Old English, especially the poetry, they never
> used the indefinite article, so it is a form thing there. intentional left
> as such.  Also it is a bit of a pet peeve of mine of late that everyone is
> running around saying "One Star!" though I get and appreciate the
> sentiment. Separately, yes, "án steorra" means "one star," but "án-" in a
> compound word semantically means, "exception, singular, lone", hence "lone
> star". Anhaga in the Exeter riddle for a shield means someone especially
> housed or stored, also meaning hermit or anchorite. Anstapa, truly means
> "lone stepper/walker/traveler, much more aptly "wanderer" than the poem of
> the same name's use of "eardstapa." Einherjar in Old Norse refers to those
> fighters who are exception, not so ordinary as not to gain the notice of
> One-Eye, but "einn herr" simply means "a warrior."  In hindsight, I didn't
> even mean for the English article to make it in.
>
> The name will make in there in due time, but my wording was exactly as
> intended.
>
> Wihtric
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> > First: the warning: Performing in two languages gives people time to lose
> > the thread. This is not a beginning performance. You're trying to show
> your
> > knowledge, but recognize that you are deliberately attempting a hard job
> -
> > holding the audience when they can't know what you're saying.
> >
> > The two times that I have performed in two languages (translations of a
> > Petrarchan sonnet and a speech from the Iliad), I separated it in
> > reasonable chunks of thought, so that the English would make sense. If a
> > single sentence is four lines, then perform those four lines together.
> So I
> > would probably do this:
> >
> > Eala, bearnas mancynnes, æðelu and gesiþas!
> > LO, bairns of mankinds, nobility and companions!
> >
> > Fram fægere land, feor and neah,
> > cumaþ hildáca in hæleþa-gamenum tógædere,
> > wuldor mid benc-winum to winnanne.
> >
> > From fair lands, far and near,
> > come battle-oaks in warrior-games together,
> > Glories with bench-friends to win.
> >
> > Ac ne land nis tó heofonum neara
> > swa cynehám ure mid steorran blæcum.
> >
> > But no land is to the heavens nearer
> > as our royal-home with a star black.
> >
> > Also, I'm astounded you didn't say "one star", just to use "an
> steorra[n]".
> >
> > Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
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