CR - Reasons (Personal Stakes)

[Mike C. Baker]

---"Michael F. Gunter" <mfgunter at fnc.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> Now, let's get on to the nasty underbelly of what people 
> may be thinking....
> 
> What are the "motives" behind those who are in favor of 
> this Principality thing?

Or who have not completely decided. (I'm not for it, I'm not
completely against it, and I'm thoroughly convinced it ain't time
yet...)
 
> Is this "Big Fish, Little Pond" syndrome? Do those who are
> pushing for this only wanting power they can't seem to get
> in the Kingdom?

I don't want any more "power" in the kingdom or any other current or
projected sub-branch thereof than I already may or may not have. I'm
not in a position currently to give any of the "big jobs" the
attention which they deserve. I have the attention of those in those
jobs currently when I need it, but that could be said of any other
member of the Society (at least as long as things are running the
way I believe they are intended to).
 
> Hoo! I think I'll walk out on that plank and say, "In some
> ways, yes." And I'm not going to take any "Not me! I'm in
> this for my love of the Kingdom/Region!" stuff either!

Ya left out "for the love of the Society", Gunthar. "Bad belt, no
biscuit." <gryn>

And, in direct contradiction to this 'tude you have expressed, that
is  exactly why "I'm in this". For the love of the Society and the
ideals it (usually) represents.
 
> Now is this bad? What would those who work their petooties 
> off get should this area becomes a Principality?
> Well Galen, Gerard, myself and a couple of other fighters
> have a change of winning a Coronet list. That would make
> Viscount Galen a Viscount, Count Gerard would become a Count,
> okay I would benefit and get a shiny new hat. We would also get
> a bit of power that we don't have in the Kingdom or region right
> now. Yep, I admit it. And I wonder if that power is that much
> compensation for the headaches that will accompany whoever
> becomes the Coronet for the first few years.

Bingo bongo boingo. Exactly. Who would *really* want, do justice to,
and deserve to be Coronet? 

And, out of curiousity, who would concentrate that much harder on
Crown Tourney to keep from feeling obligated to try for Coronet?
 
> Richard Fairborne would probably be able to become a
> Principality Seneschal and eventually a Pelican. But
> looking at the work that he's doing right now I can
> see him becoming a Kingdom Seneschal and eventually a Pelican.

With due respect and appreciation, I'm fairly convinced he may
already be at a "level of service" to receive consideration as for a
peerage.
 
> Same with Galen, oh wait, he's already been there done that.

<gryn>
 
> Amra probably has visions of First Principality Bard or 
> Seneschal or somesuch dancing in his head.

Delusions, more likely. Nope, not Seneschal anytime soon... Bard,
now that might strike closer to home -- but I don't need it *for
myself*. I'd be remiss in my duties as Bard and bard not to compete,
or at least assist with the competition, however.

I have stated openly before that I do have a long-term personal goal
of eventually serving at least a year in every major _local_ office,
to prove *to myself* that I can do so. Two down, several to go, a
few deputy / supporting positions also under my hat. Never enough
time, energy, or resources, as well.
 
> And the truth of the matter is that these visions aren't too far
> off the mark of reality.

Duh, probably not. At least for a while, anyway. 
<blush: all I've really got is a mouth, and some persistence> 

> But the people in the other groups who are not aspiring
> to the office of Regional Whatnot may aspire to the office
> of Principality Whatnot. They may not feel they
> have a chance to become Kingdom and Regional sounds so banal.

What it _should_ sound like is "training & testing ground", I think.
With one or two notable exceptions, I can't immediately recall a
recent Kingdom Seneschal who was not first :seasoned: as either a
Regional or as some other high-demand OTJ training position.
(Kingdom Deputy, large-branch Seneschal, Crown, whatever...)
 
> Will people personally gain from the formation of a Principality?
> Certainly!
> Does it really matter? Not really.

Maybe yes, maybe no. Some people will no doubt also *lose* from the
formation of a new branch of the SCA as well. That is "life"...
 
> It is hoped a greater number of people will feel involved
> in things should this occur and ain't that what we're after
> in the first place?

It may help people to feel noticed for their involvement, certainly,
but the counter to that thought still remains "why not notice them
with more regularity (and perhaps uniformity) for what they are
already doing?"

Glad to see you joining this discussion, Gunthar. Welcome to the list.
===
Adieu -- Amra / Pax ... Kihe / TTFN -- Mike
(al-Sayyid) Amr ibn Majid al-Bakri al-Amra  /
Kihe Blackeagle (the Dreamsinger Bard) / 
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