CR - Heraldic Proposals (CR/CP)

[Paul Mitchell]

Mike C. Baker wrote:
> 
> ---Paul Mitchell <pmitchel at flash.net> wrote:
> > I've got a name and arms ready to go, I posted them before.
> > But how did the north go about adopting their name (which,
> > frankly, I loathe) and device?  A couple of people started
> > using it, and it picked up?  Somebody took a poll?  What?
> 
> The "Nordsteorra" apellation has never, to my knowledge, been
> formally adopted. It is one of those things that just sorta happened
> along the way. It is my understanding that not everyone in North
> cares for its use, while others support it as verbal short-hand. I
> am not aware of any device in general use for "the North".

So, how can we avoid the circumstance where some people
have adopted a name, but nobody got a chance to reject
it?

> > I must note, that name doesn't say anything about them
> > except their relationship with the rest of us; they're
> > north.  I don't know of any principality or kingdom
> > whose name refers to another kingdom or principality.
> 
> West, East, Middle, Outlands: all refer to geographical
> relationships, although only the last of these four may have been at
> some point in relation to a specific kingdom. (Paraphrasing the
> argument leading to acceptance of Outlands as a kingdom name: the
> Outlands are "out" of the same place that the West is west of, the
> East is east of, and the Middle is in the middle of.)

Meridies, too, it's just latin for "south".  I stand corrected.

> "Nordsteorra" I believe is an arguable direct-name in its own right
> (Northern Star, i.e. the Polestar).

I dunno, I still look at it and translate "northern Ansteorra".
 
> > P.S.:  For those who missed it, what I posted before for a
> > device and name started with noticing that no SCA kingdom
> > or principality has a horse in its arms.  I've suggested
> > a name like "Equerria", "Equiterria", or "Equestria",
> > and arms blazoned "argent, a fess azure, overall a horse
> > rampant gules, and in base, a laurel wreath vert."  I
> > haven't heard any other suggestions.
> 
> I offered one name possibility (a cobbled pseudo-Germanic construct
> that loosely translated as "heart of the Sable Star":
> Herzschwarzsterren, or an approximation thereof). I can report
> hearing some off-list comments that did not seem very enthused with
> the Equus-based names OR my offering. Your original concept of using
> the horse as a totem-animal makes sense to me, however, and I don't
> see any reason to abandon the proposal based purely on initial
> responses.

What I don't like about German is that they don't make new
words, they string together abunch of old ones, like
"untergruntbahn" (literally:  "under-ground train") to
mean "subway".  I just want a new word, like "France".

While I admit to affection for my own suggestions, I'd welcome
the chance to hear anyone else's.

> May take a sales job, however. Have you any experience in the
> marketting of equine creatures, m'lord Viscount?  I know a
> horse-trader or two... <gryn>

Maybe, but we've seen complaints on the list about sales
efforts already.

OTOH, I was thinking that if we could get some Central Region
war tabards together, that could be pretty butch.  Maybe a
seme of small black stars with a central red rampant horse
against a gold field...   Hmmm, is broadcloth on sale this
week?
 
> ===
> Adieu -- Amra / Pax ... Kihe / TTFN -- Mike
> (al-Sayyid) Amr ibn Majid al-Bakri al-Amra  /

- Galen
pmitchel at flash.net
http://www.flash.net/~pmitchel/galen.htm
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