[ANSTHRLD] helms, livery, and fru-fru oh my

Paul Haines wyrmclaw at ev1.net
Thu Jul 19 16:48:35 PDT 2001


Teceangl,
Thank you for the advice.  I am starting this little guide based in
Ansteorra, but something I'm wanting to look into is either making it a
Known World guide, or make Volumes for each kingdom.  I am very curious to
see what other kingdoms do with achievements.  I know awards vary greatly
among kingdoms, so I am going to avoid specific awards as much as possible,
but the classes of awards (magnates, peers, grant, armigerous,
non-armigerous) seem to be fairly congruent, or am I mistaken?

I'm not going to bite off more than I can chew of course.  I'm starting with
an Ansteorran Guide first.  Then I'll look into other kingdoms.  I'd also
like to use some original artwork for the guide(s), so if any scribes would
like to contribute in that aspect, please email me.  Credit for artwork will
be given of course, and copies can be made so that original pieces can be
returned (or kept with you) if you so desire.  My wife is an artist, and she
loathes giving out her originals, so I can relate to that too.  :)

Darius (et al),
As soon as I get the guide written, edited and approved such that it is
worthy of publication, I'll be happy to inform you and everyone else.  I
don't yet know how it will be published.  I'll have to look into that.

In service,
Alden


----- Original Message -----
From: Teceangl <tierna at agora.rdrop.com>
To: <heralds at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] helms, livery, and fru-fru oh my


> > It's ironic (to me) that this question came up.  I am in the process of
> > writing up a little guide about just such things.  I'm hoping to make it
a
> > Non-Herald's Guide to SCA Device Heraldry.  Just a little something that
> > maybe locals would like a copy of, so when a newcomer comes to him/her
for
> > help in designing a device, they can pull out the guide either go over
it
> > with the newcomer, or give it to the newcomer to get started.  The guide
> > might also be useful to new heralds.  I've gotten a lot of surprised
looks
> > from people when they found out I knew a bit about heraldry before I
became
> > a herald.  Is it really so uncommon that heralds know a thing or two
before
> > they become a herald?  Anyway, this little guide of mine might help with
> > that.  A tentative outline will be to discuss the assembly of the full
> > coat-of-arms with achievements, starting with the device and working up.
>
> Since such things migrate out of kingdom, please either make it crystal
clear
> that this was written in and for the Kingdom of Ansteorra on X date (so
that
> if things change in the future people can figure out it's out of date) or
> reference as much information of other kingdoms as possible (again, please
> date its publication).
> There is much IKA going here.  Achievement-wise, An Tir is more lenient
than
> Ansteorra, and likely other kingdoms are different as well and we want
people
> to realize that things change across the borders.
>
> - Teceangl
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