[ANSTHRLD] RE: June 2003 Ansteorran Gazette

[doug bell]

If the someone will send me the info needed to fill out the submission form
I
will file an appeal for the submitter.  We didn't have enough info to figure
out what they were trying to do from the cited documentation.

Magnus
Orle herald


>From: "C. L. Ward" <gunnora at vikinganswerlady.com>
>Reply-To: heralds at ansteorra.org
>To: <heralds at ansteorra.org>
>Subject: [ANSTHRLD] RE: June 2003 Ansteorran Gazette
>Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 03:33:34 -0500
>
>I'm not sure who should get this info.  I noticed in the June Gazette that
>more documentation was needed for Asa Hrafnasdo'ttir, and if I'd noticed it
>sooner I'd have sent it in before the name got bounced...
>
>The Gazette had:
>
>----- Excerpt from 200306AG.pdf -----
>3. Asa Hrafnasdo'ttir (Loch Ruadh)
>New Name. New Device. Per fess sable and gules, in chief three ravens
>standing close and in base a valknut Or.
>
>Gawain
>[Name] I don’t see anything in Geirr Bassi specifically addressed to the
>genitive of names ending in <-afn>, but would have assumed that it should
>be
><Hrafnardo'ttir>. G.B. cautions, though, that variant forms exist.
>
>Magnus
>[Name] It looks like the patronymic is formed the wrong way. The submitter
>didn’t give us the name used in the patronymic so it can’t be fixed. I can
>only recommend a return unless the rest of the documentation is provided.
>Geirr Bassi has several dozen names on each page.
>
>College Action
>
>Name:  Return for further work.  <Hrafni> was not found in Geirr Bassi as
>listed in the documentation.  Therefore, patronymic could not be documented
>with that spelling.
>----- End Excerpt from 200306AG.pdf -----
>
>The name Hrafn occurs as both a personal name and as a by-name throughout
>Scandinavia, found as Old Danish <Rafn>, Old Swedish <Ramn>, and OW.Norse
><Hrafn>. From the OW.Norse noun <hrafn> "raven." The form <Hrafn> is very
>common in Iceland throughout the medieval period, and occurs in Norway as
>well, less frequently. Runic examples include the nominative form <hrafn>
>and the accusative forms <rafn>, <raf->.
>
>Geirr Bassi Haraldsson. The Old Norse Name. Studia Marklandica I. Olney,
>MD:
>Markland Medieval Militia. 1977.  p. 11 s.n. Hrafn
>
>Fellows-Jensen, Gillian. Scandinavian Personal Names in Lincolnshire and
>Yorkshire. Copenhagen. Akademisk Forlag. 1968. pp. 210-212 s.n. Rafn
>
>Cleasby, Richard and Guðbrandr Vigfusson. An Icelandic-English Dictionary.
>2nd. ed. Oxford: Clarendon. 1957. pp. 281 s.v. hrafn
>
>Lena Peterson. Nordiskt runnamnslexikon. Språk- och folkminnes-institutet.
>http://www.dal.lu.se/runlex/index.htm Accessed 30 May 2003.  s.n. Hrafn
>
>The correct genitive of the masculine name <Hrafn> in Old Norse is
><Hrafns>.
>You can see this at work in:
>
>(1) Gisla saga Surssonar (http://www.snerpa.is/net/isl/gisl.htm), which
>mentions a woman named <{TH}uri'{dh}r Hrafns do'ttir> in chapter 4.
>
>(2) Also in Egils saga skallagri'msonar ch. 23, which mentions:
><{TH}o'rlaug
>var dóttir Hrafns>
>
>See also:
>
>(3) Hrafns þa'ttur Gu{dh}ru'narsonar
>(http://www.snerpa.is/net/isl/hrafn-g.htm)
>
>(4) Landna'mabo'k (http://www.snerpa.is/net/snorri/landnama.htm) ch. 28 and
>Ba'r{dh}ar Saga Sn{ae}felsa'ss (http://www.snerpa.is/net/isl/b-snae.htm)
>ch.
>6 have the exact same phrase:
>
>"{TH}eirra son var {TH}ormo'{dh}ur er a'tti Helgu O:nundardo'ttur, systur
>Ska'ld-Hrafns." (Their son was Thormod who married Helga Onundardottir, the
>sister of Skald-Hrafn).
>
>(5) Brennu-Njáls saga (http://www.snerpa.is/net/isl/njala.htm) ch. 19 has:
>"Sto'ro'lfur var bro'{dh}ir Hrafns lo:gso:gumanns." (Storolfr was the
>brother of Hrafn the Lawspeaker).
>
>::GUNNVOR::
>
>Gunnvor silfraharr
>
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