[ANSTHRLD] Heraldic Regalia

Etienne de St. Amaranth star at ansteorra.org
Thu Feb 5 10:08:10 PST 2004


At 08:36 AM 2/5/2004, you wrote:
>I'm not sure if each GoOf has a badge for their office, but I would
>think that you would not use the black star on group officer's
>medallions, simply to avoid confusing them with Kingdom Officers. Also,
>what would you do about officer's in between groups and kingdom, such as
>regionals, or in a heraldic example, Pursuivant's/Herald's at large?

I have a seal of office but not a collar or official insignia.  I am 
working on a tabard to remain with the office.  The principal herald wears 
the kingdom arms (when I wear a tabard) because that job is always as the 
herald of the Crown as steward of Their Majesties' College of Heralds, not 
just during court.

Use of a kingdom badge element would make some logical sense for kingdom 
offices.  Local group badges would be logically appropriate for local group 
offices.  Regional heralds are lesser officers of state to the kingdom, per 
kingdom law.  Use of the arms of the group are restricted to the nobility 
of the group and that nobility's herald, so don't put the arms of the shire 
on collars for all of the officers; use a group badge or an element from 
the arms or a badge.  I am still re-reading the latest post on collars to 
see what has turned up but remember that (for a period perspective) we need 
examples of heralds with collars, not just office holders in general, 
because heralds were different than mayors, chancellors, bishops, etc. and 
were treated differently.  The Lord Mayor, Lord Chancellor, Lord Bishop, 
etc. did not equate to Lord Herald for all heralds (although there were 
certainly some where it did) as a universal maxim.

Pusuivants/Heralds at large are not an office, they are an honor or ranking 
system.  Collars of office need an associated office to be relevant.

Etienne
Star




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