[ANSTHRLD] Conflict check help

Rhonda and Stephen Hays housedragonstar at earthlink.net
Mon Jun 20 16:51:59 PDT 2005


The gauntlet is holding the sword by the hilt.  The client didn't specify 
how, so I get to.  It is holding it fist clenched, no fingers showing 
(easier to draw).  I am going to guess that to draw this, the gauntlet is 
going to have to come out at some sort of an angle, or can it be more or 
less straight down? There are either one of these sword/gauntlet combos, or 
three of these combinations on the shield (primarily to clear conflict, not 
as the desired number).

The sword and gauntlet have a natural proportion, in that the gauntlet is 
small and the sword larger.

Right hand or left hand doesn't matter, whatever will pass.

I have concerns about identifiability of the charge if we take it to three 
since the detail of the gauntlet might get lost.  Is this a valid concern?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim McDaniel" <tmcd at panix.com>
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict check help

> On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Rhonda and Stephen Hays 
> <housedragonstar at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>  Need help with conflict check and blazon.  I got the Sable, a/three
>> (insert sword with gauntlet), Or/argent.  Just need the middle part.
>>  Field:  Black
>>  Charge: a sword being held by a gauntlet (no arm showing), either
>> one or a group of 3 (2 and 1), business end(s) up.
>>  Charge is either silver or gold, depending on what stands a better
>> chance of passing.
> ...
>> Oh, the sword is palewise...sorry.
> A "sword proper" is argent hilted Or (treated as argent), so you might
> consider that.
> There are one to four charges in your design: 1 gauntlet +
> 1 to 3 sword(s).
> What does the gauntlet look like?  Right gauntlet or left?  Palm/inner
> wrist side showing, back side showing, or side view (palm up or down)?
> Clenched or not?  (A hand doesn't have to be cletched to hold
> something.  Consider holding a basketball.  You see the hand palm-side
> up in a side view, with the basketball resting atop).  What part of
> the sword(s) is it holding (the hilt is natural but not necessary)?
> What are the relative visual weights of the gauntlet and the sword(s)?
> Does the gauntlet look as big as any sword, or is it more naturalistic
> and more like the size of the hilt?
> "Two and one" are arranged like this (please use a fixed-width font to
> view this):
> |     |
> +     +
>    |
>    +
> You cannot have one gauntlet holding three swords arranged like that
> -- the hilts are in three different places.  Maybe you mean
> \|/
>  *
> (where the three swords are in a V arrangement with overlapping
> hilts)?  Or maybe
>  \|/
>   *
>  /|\
> x + x
> (a sheaf of three swords, presumably being held in the middle where
> they overlap)?  But in neither case are they all palewise.
> Daniel de Lindonio
> -- 
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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