[ANSTHRLD] Heralds Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5

Tim McDaniel tmcd at panix.com
Wed Apr 4 11:27:54 PDT 2007


On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Fergus Stout <bullheaded67 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> This was chosen by a specific peer for a specific purpose.

Choosing a design for a specific purpose is the usual case.

> At the time it was created there was no thoughts of having to see it
> through the College for registration as it was not to be owned by
> any individual.

- There can be armory (household badges) for use by a group of
   people.

- Regardless of whether a design is intended to be registered or not,
   it's best to follow period style, of decoration if not of heraldry.

> I await your further thoughts on the matter with anticipation.

There may be differences of opinion coming up, and perhaps some
brainstorming of possible notions.  I don't advocate raising a fuss in
the group at the moment, but perhaps people might want to hold off for
a little while on new stuff.

Emma was clever with her suggestion of extending it into a chevron.
An ordinary "per pale argent and Or" with a solid background is not
done much in the SCA but wouldn't surprise me in period (that is, I
like it).  For it being too high for a normal chevron, perhaps there
could be two.  (I considered a bend, but if there were two bends, I
would expect the pair to terminate on either side of the corner.)

Hedwig:
> The person who asked me to check this called the yellow "slash" (for
> lack of a definitive term) a demi bendelet.  But what I've read so
> far a bendelt is just a narrower version of a bend, not a bend cut
> in half.

It's true that a bendlet is a narrower bend.  "Demi-" is a heraldic
prefix, but I only recall seeing it for a demi-beast (a demi-lion, for
example).

> Robin's suggestion would seem like a good idea but that smacks of
> marshaling to me and I know that won't pass.

What was his suggestion, "Per pale, azure and azure a bend Or"?  It's
not a per pale division that makes it returnable marshalling: it's
that we prohibit one of the halves to appear to be independent armory,
which is enumerated as being more than one charge or an ordinary that
terminates at the edges of the field section.

> They want to add the Ansteorran star to the "slash"

That's not a problem per se, but it would be nice to see if something
period and agreeable can be devised before they put in more work.

Danyell de Lincoln
-- 
Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com



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