[ANSTHRLD] Bee positions

Jennifer Smith jds at randomgang.com
Sat Aug 25 08:05:34 PDT 2007


Teceangl wrote:
> On 8/24/07, Jennifer Smith <jds at randomgang.com> wrote:
> > Donnchadh wrote:
> > > Is a side view possible for bees, and how should I blazon it?
> >
> > It is not, and would be returned for a heraldic 
> identifiability problem. (We
> > recently returned two side-view dragonflies for the same reason...)
> 
> But this precedent has not been overturned, so far as I know:
> 
> [(Fieldless) A bee statant proper] In the SCA, a bee statant has its
> wings addorsed by default, as in the August 2002 registration of
> Robert Pine's device.
> 
> This badge does not conflict with Aideen the Audacious, (Fieldless) A
> bumblebee fesswise proper. There is one CD for fieldlessness. Aideen's
> bumblebee is in its default tergiant posture, and then rotated
> fesswise. There is a CD between a bee tergiant fesswise and a bee
> statant. Both postures show the bees with fesswise bodies, but a bee
> tergiant fesswise has wings visible on both sides of the bee's body,
> while a bee statant only has wings visible on the chiefmost side of
> the body. This difference is worth a CD, analogous to the difference
> between a bird rising wings displayed and a bird rising wings
> addorsed. [Catríona nic Theàrlaigh, 12/02, A-An Tir]
>...

Thank you for finding that precedent!  In which case, yes, Donnchadh, if
it's drawn well enough...

The device we returned at kingdom had two dragonflies in profile respectant,
each with one set of wings visible; it looked for all the world like one
poor dragonfly chopped in half!

-Emma




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