[ANSTHRLD] AG Feb/Mar '08

Alasdair MacEogan alasdair at bmhanson.net
Fri Aug 29 12:53:10 PDT 2008

From: kevinkeary at aol.com

> I am trying to find out why Fiontain o Cuaig's device  was
>  returned by kingdom 2/08. These two gazettes won't open 
>  in my ftp  reader, although it can read all the others.

The 2 Gazettes in question may be larger than your ftp reader can handle.  Try pulling them down tot he hard drive before opening them if you have issues.  I have had a couple problems before and that generally resolves it.

As for the device, it has already been noted that it was returned at Kingdom for a lack of a name. (returned 7/07 by laurel) The kingdom does not create holding names so if there is no name when the device hit kingdom then it automatically gets returned.  So permission to create a holding name is not relevant at the kingdom level.

Now the names was returned as part of the 07/2007 LoAR.  Here is the text of the return:

"Fiontan Ó Cuaig.  Name.

    No documentation was submitted and none found to suggest that the patronymic Ó Cuaig was used in period. The name is documented from MacLysaght, Irish Surnames. MacLysaght's book is about modern names and provides modern forms of both Gaelic and Anglicized spellings. At one time, this book was the best reference we had for Irish names, but this is no longer the case. Because MacLysaght provides few if any dates, and because the forms given in this work are explicitly modern, it is no longer acceptable as sole documentation for Irish names. The commenters were unable to find Ó Cuaig or any similar name dated to period. Barring such documentation, Ó Cuaig is not registerable."


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