[ANSTHRLD] AG Feb/Mar '08
kevinkeary at aol.com
kevinkeary at aol.com
Fri Aug 29 13:12:42 PDT 2008
Thank you all. I'd just finally found the decision, LoI reprinted in
our AG 11/07, and thought I'd have to type it out by hand to send to
Fiontan. But Alasdair's version I can cut and paste, and thus risk no
typos.
I appreciate the time you all spent and the things I've learned through
your answers.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: Alasdair MacEogan <alasdair at bmhanson.net>
To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
<heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] AG Feb/Mar '08
From: kevinkeary at aol.com
> I am trying to find out why Fiontain o Cuaig's device was
> returned by kingdom 2/08. These two gazettes won't open
> in my ftp reader, although it can read all the others.
The 2 Gazettes in question may be larger than your ftp reader can
handle. Try
pulling them down tot he hard drive before opening them if you have
issues. I
have had a couple problems before and that generally resolves it.
As for the device, it has already been noted that it was returned at
Kingdom for
a lack of a name. (returned 7/07 by laurel) The kingdom does not create
holding
names so if there is no name when the device hit kingdom then it
automatically
gets returned. So permission to create a holding name is not relevant
at the
kingdom level.
Now the names was returned as part of the 07/2007 LoAR. Here is
the
text of the
return:
"Fiontan Ó Cuaig. Name.
No documentation was submitted and none found to suggest that the
patronymic
Ó Cuaig was used in period. The name is documented from MacLysaght,
Irish
Surnames. MacLysaght's book is about modern names and provides modern
forms of
both Gaelic and Anglicized spellings. At one time, this book was the
best
reference we had for Irish names, but this is no longer the case.
Because
MacLysaght provides few if any dates, and because the forms given in
this work
are explicitly modern, it is no longer acceptable as sole documentation
for
Irish names. The commenters were unable to find Ó Cuaig or any similar
name
dated to period. Barring such documentation, Ó Cuaig is not
registerable."
Alasdair
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