[ANSTHRLD] [Fwd: Heraldry announcement for Commentary

kevinkeary at aol.com kevinkeary at aol.com
Thu Jul 10 12:32:28 PDT 2008

So, what say we start a petition drive to
1) grandfather existing arms
2) continue to allow crowns/coronets in the arms of nobility/royalty
3) stop the use of symbols of peerage in NEW arms for peers while 
encouraging their appropriate use in the achievement (so, heralds can 
pun AND cant) and
4) continue both the reservation and requirement of the laurel wreath 
in territorial arms.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc. 
<heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 2:02 pm
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] [Fwd: Heraldry announcement for Commentary

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Kimberly Langhans <sarapenrose at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> I actually kinda don't like that peers are able to include the 
> symbols of their peerage in their arms. It seems to me like an 
> invitation for people to turn their arms into a fluid, visual record 
> of their awards 
The long-standing term of art in the College of Arms is 
"My Life On My Arms, a.k.a. 'I can't barcode my Social Security Number 
on my device, but I'll come as close as I can'". 
> (does anyone use them, BTW? I've never seen anyone with a pelican or 
> knight's chain as part of their device) 
I've seen it occasionally. Where the reserved charges really come in 
is with crowns/coronets. I don't kvetch about crowns so much because 
they're pretty=2
0common in period armory and can often be accommodated 
more easily (e.g., an animal crowned or with a crown around its neck). 
Dankyn de Linccolne 
-- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com 
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