[ANSTHRLD] Herald's Point Question
Cisco Cividanes
engtrktwo at gmail.com
Sat Aug 14 22:47:33 PDT 2010
> To Ivo's question-
> You are running an heraldic point that is presumably for vocal heraldry
> and not a consultation point, correct?
Yes.
> Are you making announcements as the Provioncial representative speaking as
> the Province directed by its ruler (in this case, the Crown)? Not really.
I wasn't really sure about that one way or the other.
> You are making general announcements throughout the day and heralding
> lists. This is not speaking as the Province, but rather for the benefit of
> the Province.
Okay. However, as I am working under the direction of the event
steward, how does that not count as "speaking for the group"?
(not arguing, not in the least. I honestly am just curious about the
clarification on this point)
SNIP...
> If you use the green with crossed trumpets (which is probably the least
> presumptuous), you may get people thinking you are running a consultation
> table, but that's the risk you run with the different forms of heraldry
> period.
I agree with the possibility for misunderstanding. There really isn't
any way around that possibility I guess, no mater what we do.
My thinking on the subject was (and still is, largely) that since
there is always an announcement for needed heralds to meet (somewhere)
at our event, I figured I could just amend the announcement to say
"interested heralds please meet there (pointing) at heralds point."
That way we can define the banner's meaning (whatever banner we wind
up using) specifically at that event with a majority of the attendees.
I guess I am also looking to expand the definition of "herald's
point". (watch that statement get me in trouble)
> If you use the Mooneschadowe arms or badge, people will probably
> not quickly make the connection that that pavilion is for vocal heraldry, as
> Master Robin mentioned.
>Additionally, I think it is a bit presumptuous.
hum... until I nail down exactly what the criteria are for a herald
being hired by a group, and what powers that group or its
representative can vest in the herald, I'm not sure if I agree with
that last part out not.
> Brian O'hUilliam
And many thanks to you for contributing. As always, a please to hear
your take on the subject.
Ivo
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