[ANSTHRLD] Discusssion about achievements

Bill Perkins bill.perkins at sbcglobal.net
Tue May 29 12:15:30 PDT 2012


In addition to Herr Andreas' comments, the primary purpose was to introduce the proposal and get people thinking about it, the state of achievement registration, and heraldic display in the Kingdom. 

Some main points I recall are:
• Any decision should be well reasoned and implemented without undue haste.
• Kingdoms with less specific rules do not necessarily see more display of heraldry. 
• There are a few anecdotal cases for a revision of current rules, but these examples in no way constitute enough data to make a more scientific decision. 
• Trying to collect said data could be difficult. 
• This is the start of the discussion and the process could take some time to resolve to a conclusion. 
• Some alternate divisions of what elements are allowed at what level was reviewed. 
• While the initial research was generally lauded, some more examples across Europe is desirable, which tied into an understandable lament of the lack of more modern references. 

Alejandro


On May 29, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Alden Drake <alden_drake at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> So for those of us who didn't make it to Warlord (sad face), what was discussed 
> on achievements?
> 
> Thanks,
> Alden
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Bill Perkins <bill.perkins at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." 
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> Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 3:02:02 PM
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> 
> I agree with Star.
> 
> For my part, Warlord seemed a good starting point to get the discussions 
> started.  There are usually quite a few of heralds at the event.  During the 
> heat of the day, it seems a good way to spend some time in the Hall.
> 
> Alejandro
> Zodiacus
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Andrewe Bawldwyn
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:13 PM
> To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc.
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Discusssion about achievements
> 
> This is not going to be the only discussion on this topic. This is one
> proposal opening the possibility to determining if we want to make any
> changes to our system. Everyone has a voice in this subject, and when
> we have a set of proposed changes that we feel will serve well,
> they'll be posted likely to OSCAR for further commentary and digestion
> by the College. So this is by no means a fast process. There will be
> plenty of time to comment on this issue. Possible venues for
> discussion would be Red Tape at the plenary meeting, and AHSS in
> August, and I'll announce these in advance.
> 
> I remain,
> 
> Andrewe
> Star
> 
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Alasdair MacEogan
> <alasdair at bmhanson.net> wrote:
>> For those who are not able to attend could we get a preview so we might be
>> able to give some feedback
>> On May 25, 2012 12:46 PM, "Bill Perkins" <bill.perkins at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings all,
>>> 
>>> Nautilus, Andreas von Meißen, has drafted an intriguing proposal for
>>> renovating the achievement system of Ansteorra.  During the Chivalry Circle
>>> at Steppes Warlord, let us all get together and discuss his proposal.  I
>>> will have some printed copies on hand.
>>> 
>>> Barón Alejandro
>>> Zodiacus
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