[ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check: Or, on a pile gules a lion and a stag combatant counter-changed

[Darnell Daniels]

That is what I thought I will change to per chevron inverted and present to the client


--- On Thu, 5/31/12, Jennifer Smith <jds at randomgang.com> wrote:

> From: Jennifer Smith <jds at randomgang.com>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check: Or, on a pile gules a lion and a stag combatant counter-changed
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 10:08 AM
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Tim
> McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
> wrote:
> > Robert of Coleford / Darnell Daniels <dmage121 at yahoo.com>
> asked about
> >>
> >> Or, on a pile gules a lion and a stag combatant
> counter-changed
> >
> >> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3022563215756&set=a.1471610042896.59331.1612997228&type=3
> 
> > I honestly don't remember: do pile issue from the
> corners of the
> > shields?  There are proper pile placement precedents,
> but I don't have
> > convenient access to check them.
> 
> They do not. It's important to remember that a pile is an
> ordinary,
> NOT a field division -- a common mistake. A properly drawn
> pile issues
> entirely from the chief, with the sides inset from the upper
> corners
> some distance.
> 
> Robert, what might work better for you would be either a
> "per chevron
> inverted" field division, or flipping it around, a "per
> chevron" field
> division.  A properly-drawn "per chevron inverted"
> starts lower on the
> field, not at the upper corners, but is in a V shape like
> this. A "per
> chevron" field division is an upside-down V.  Both
> field divisions
> should divide the field roughly in half. In both cases,
> counterchanging the beasties over a field division is far
> more common
> in period heraldry than over an ordinary.
> 
> -Emma
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