[Loch-soilleir] RE: Loch-solleir Q and A

Wyllow MacMuireadhaigh wyllowmacm at netscape.net
Thu Apr 1 21:00:48 PST 2004


And, by the way - Welsh Gaelic is from the P-Gaelic family, and different from Irish & Scottish Gaelic.  (K-Gaelic?)  It could be coincidentally the same in both Welsh & Irish, but  I would be surprised.  They are very different.
Loch Soilleir seems to be non-Welsh.  
There go our favorite myths.  But I couldn't sleep until I researched the answer to make my internal Mom happy.
Sigh...and a good night to all.
--A tired & grumpy Wyllow

wyllowmacm wrote:

>Oh, for goodness sakes!  As Mom used to say - look it up!
>
>From my daughter's French-English dictionary:
>Clear - (transparent) clair, limpide
>Lake - lac
>
>From my Gaelic (Irish) dictionary:
>Clear - (adj) glan, (of speech) soileir (e has an accent)
>Lake - loch
>
>So Loch Soileir means "clear-speaking lake".  Whoops!
>
>Now the only 2 questions to bother Baron Bors with are:
>1.  Did the founders do that on purpose?
>2. Are we STILL mispelling it?
>--Wyllow of the Loch
>
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>>Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:29:44 -0600
>>From: "lessa" <lessa at houston.rr.com>
>>Subject: [Loch-soilleir] Loch Soilleir history Q
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>>OK, now that we have this e-group, let's use it.
>>Where did the name Loch Soilleir come from?  And what does it mean?
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>>Lessa
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>>Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:14:20 EST
>>From: GINEVRA99 at aol.com
>>Subject: Re: [Loch-soilleir] Loch Soilleir history Q
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>>Greetings:
>>>From what I was told when I became a member of Loch Soillier it is Welsh and 
>>means Clear Lake.  I believe Aiden (David Brummel) named the chapter.
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>>>Where did the name Loch Soilleir come from?  And what does it mean?
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>>it's gaelic for clear lake.   loch means lake and soilleir means clear.
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>>Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 06:10:28 -0800 (PST)
>>From: Kathy Cofrin <kcofrin at flash.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Loch-soilleir] Loch Soilleir history Q
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>>Why don't we ask Bors?  He was the first Baron.  I may have his email in my book at home.
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>>lessa <lessa at houston.rr.com> wrote:OK, now that we have this e-group, let's use it.
>>Where did the name Loch Soilleir come from? And what does it mean?
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>>Lessa
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>>Actually I was told it is NOT Gaelic, but French.  we need to ask Bors.  He was the first Baron of the Loch.
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>>"Phillip M. Johnson" <phillipmj at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>>Where did the name Loch Soilleir come from? And what does it mean?
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>>it's gaelic for clear lake. loch means lake and soilleir means clear.
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