[Loch-soilleir] Thoughts To Consider for Populace Next Week

sam cooper samatha.cooper at gmail.com
Wed Aug 12 13:41:46 PDT 2009


Alan,

You make some excellent points.

Would you like to be my deputy hospitaller? I think it would be an excellent
way to begin, since you have volunteered your willingness to serve.

Si'le

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Alan Steinberg <alanfsteinberg at gmail.com>wrote:

> Response from a new person...
>
> I may be out of place with my comments, but I think seeing it from the
> point
> of view of a new person might be helpful.
>
> I know that Master Modius is focusing on involvement of those who have been
> involved or a while... but perhaps there should also be a focus on
> developing the new people.  If more people join, then there are more people
> to serve the Barony.
>
> Regarding office holding... At populous my impression was "oh, all the
> offices are full, guess they don't need my help" or "oh man, how can i help
> with that, I'm just a new guy."  I'm happy to be anyone's deputy, but...
> when I look on the website, I don't even know that's an option.
>
> Regarding new people in general... SCA has a high buy in, both in time and
> money.  Many people have been playing for years, so to new people its hard
> to get in the fold.  There is an expectation to live SCA, meaning there
> seems to be little room for those people who can't make everything all the
> time, but what to play here and there.  This might not be true, but its the
> feeling new people get.  Then there are the costs of buying garb
> (thankfully
> Sir Virgil has helped me with aquiring armor) and attending events out of
> town (camping, hotels, gas, etc).  Its all quite daunting to a new person.
>
> Better recruitment and retention will lead to people wanting to serve the
> barony.
>
> 1) Make populous more fun.  Where is my dimly lit room, people in garb,
> wooden tables and steal cups full of beverages?  Herald's announcing people
> as they walk in... or at least helping new people set up names!  Office
> holders bearing the symbols of their office and getting their recognition.
> I'm told people live SCA, but my first impression is a dozen people in a
> sparce room being told we need people to fill offices but I don't see
> anything happening?
>
> 2) Reward local participation... and local can be more involved.  Each
> populous can be a mini event with a show & tell, a small tourney and dinner
> (3-4 hrs event) rather than a (45 min) business meeting and going to
> Jason's
> Deli afterward.  I'd say the Baron/Baroness (with their officer's help)
> should be responsible for making this happen, leading your subjects is not
> cheap or easy!
>
> 3) Hospitaller should be more than a person who sends an e-mail or says hi
> at meetings, but the office should include a supply bin for new people
> (donated garb and what not for new people to use, once they have better
> they
> donate it back). Perhaps even responsible or co-ordinating barony
> involvment
> at out of town events?  Defult event stuart?  Lets figure out ways to do
> things together reather than "hey, there is an ever 5 hours away, you
> should
> go."
>
> What about a mentor program (similar to squires and knights) but one where
> experienced people in various A&S in addition to fighting offer to take
> someone under their wing and meet with them during non guild events.
> Officers by defult should be mentors!
>
> Ok... so way more then anyone wanted to read, especially from a new
> person... but currently office holders appaer to be paper pushers, lets
> change that image, make things more group orientated and better involve the
> new people and then there will actually be competition for offices!
>
> Alan
> Roming Over-opinionated Newguy
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Langhans, Erik <elanghans at khou.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Will you be at populace?  You should.  I would like to put out a thought
> > for consideration and discussion.
> >
> > There are some critical issues impacting the health and well-being of our
> > Barony...
> >
> > It has become critically hard to find replacements for any and all of our
> > required offices (Seneschal, Treasurer, Hospitaler, Chronicler, Herald,
> A&S
> > and/or Marshal (Rapier and/or Chivalric).  That is 7-8 officers.
> >
> > It has become critically hard to find ER deputies for any and all of our
> > required officer (Seneschal, Treasurer, Hospitaler, Chronicler, Herald,
> A&S
> > and/or Marshal (Rapier and/or Chivalric).  That is 7-8 ER Deputy
> Officers.
> >
> > It has become critically hard to find folks to Steward and/or Cater our
> > required Baronial events. 2 Events.
> >
> > It has become critically hard to find folks to Steward and/or Cater our
> > additional Baronial events. 1-2 events.
> >
> > There is a lot of officer hat passing; one officer stepping down only to
> > take up a new office because no one wanted to take it.
> >
> > Let's do the math.  7 required officers + 7 ER Deputies to those officers
> =
> > 14 officer.  Plus 2-3 Stewards + 2-3 Caterers.
> >
> > Sooooooo.....here is the question.  Take a deep breath.
> >
> > Has the time come to pack it in and move from Barony to Shire.  If you do
> > this you are only required to fill 3 offices; (Seneschal, Treasurer, and
> one
> > of the following Herald, A&S and/or Marshal (Rapier and/or Chivalric).
> >
> > If you do not think we should become a Shire, NOW is time to step up and
> > take an office or a ER deputy position.  I did my part.  Aside from my
> > duties as a Director on the Board of SCA, Inc., yesterday I spoke with
> Wissa
> > to become one of her Knight Marshal Deputies. I also pledge to put my
> > application in for that office if and when it opens up fo apps.
> >
> > What office will you take?
> >
> > Or should we become a Shire?
> >
> > See you next Tues for a lively discussion.  Please come.  If you only
> come
> > once per year, come to the next populace.
> >
> > Master Modius von Mergentheim, OL, OP, WSA, CSS, Baron, Lion
> > Proud Loch Subject
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