[Namron] Re: Scathach

[el2iot2 at mail.com]

What would happen if the child was born "out of wedlock".  there wouldn't really be a Patrinymic to use, as the father may not be known or acknowledged.  Are there period examples to illistrate this situation?  did the mother just make one up?  

joy
Radei
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Barrett" <barrett1 at cox.net>
To: "Barony of Namron" <namron at ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Namron] Re: Scathach
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:56:32 -0500

> 
> Oh it happened, but was extremely rare and apparently there is no 
> known example before 1200 AD.
> One I found was Bonner, which was Matronymic, but also was very 
> late period and had Scottish influence. In fact, I even found a 
> letter of SCA heraldic commentary wherein someone tried "daughter 
> of Fhionnaghula" and it bounced.
> Google Irish Matronymics and you should see plenty of stuff.
> 
> Finnacan Dub (pronounced Finnegan Duff)
> 
> On Thursday, May 19, 2005, at 10:32 AM, Foster, Shadow ((HSC)) wrote:
> 
> > I remember reading somewhere that there were circumstances where 
> > the mother's line, rather than the father's was used.  Somewhere 
> > in the site does research that is more stringent than the SCA.  
> > Does this ring a bell for anyone else?
> > Shadow
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > You would reference the father's name, not the mothers.
> >   Ireland had more rights for women under Brehon law when compared to
> > most any other country in that timeframe, but the patriach was still
> > remembered in the name. If the father was Fionn, you, being a lady,
> > would be Ua Fionn (O' Finn).
> > Otherwise, give yourself a qualifier that is self-descriptive.
> >
> > ~Finnacan Dub (pronounced Finnegan Duff)
> >
> > On Thursday, May 19, 2005, at 09:16 AM, Foster, Shadow ((HSC)) wrote:
> >
> >> So how would Scathach, daughter of Fionnaghula, be used as a name?
> >> Shadow
> >
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joy


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